You guys are getting upset over nothing. This story is simply about Jay Carney's name being considered, not the man himself. I think it's a fine name and hold nothing against it for also being Jay Carney's name.
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Apple Considering Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney for PR Chief Position [Update: Conflicting Reports]
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You guys are getting upset over nothing. This story is simply about Jay Carney's name being considered, not the man himself. I think it's a fine name and hold nothing against it for also being Jay Carney's name.
I feel like people don't understand this job.
Do you trust the executives or don't you? That's pretty much all there is to it.
If you think that Tim Cook is going to tell the new guy to lie about stuff then why didn't you think Tim was telling Katie to lie about stuff?
What changed?
I don't want an honest person for PR, I want a good liar. That's what PR is about.
Shilling for Obama must be a lot like being the public face for Microsoft.
On the other hand, Apple makes quality products that work, so that would make his job much easier from a PR perspective; all he needs to do is tell the truth.
On the other hand, Apple makes quality products that work, so that would make his job much easier from a PR perspective; all he needs to do is tell the truth.
That's exactly what you want in a PR person. No credibility and good PR skills, exactly the qualifications he needed to be a politician. He understands his fellow politicians well. And making sure Apple is not screwed over by the US government is so important. As is putting political pressure on corrupt US judges so the judges do the right thing is so important too. So I think this is a great potential appointment.
He will be told what to say. And this guy will work out how to say it to win over his political colleagues.
Since it was one line in a recode story about Ubr let's hope it's just gossip and nothing more. I can't believe Cook would be that dumb.
Jay was the "minister of propaganda" for the Obama administration. He did a great job at that but now he has the baggage of "liar in chief" mouthpiece.
I say give him a lower level position within the chain of command or NOT AT ALL.
Not a "tent pole" position.
Too politically charged and Apple needs all stripes to buy products and needs to avoid bans and protests.
Rocketman
Question: Does he meet the Jony Ive test?
"Good ideas are simple, beautiful and immediately understandable." -- Jony Ive
P.S. Apple is primarily commerce, not primarily politics, or PROPAGANDA . . . .
I say give him a lower level position within the chain of command or NOT AT ALL.
Not a "tent pole" position.
Too politically charged and Apple needs all stripes to buy products and needs to avoid bans and protests.
Rocketman
Question: Does he meet the Jony Ive test?
"Good ideas are simple, beautiful and immediately understandable." -- Jony Ive
P.S. Apple is primarily commerce, not primarily politics, or PROPAGANDA . . . .
This is not about who is lying to who. This is about taking the truth (from Apple) and saying it in a way that will stop the US government and US judges from continuing their crusade against Apple. He is an inside man (inside the US government) and this knows how to deal with them better than most.
Or putting pressure on judges to do what best serves Apple, regardless of whether it's right or wrong. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, just that it might be something they're thinking about.
I got the impression that Steve tried to stop, or at least slow down, the revolving door between government and the corporate world. Tim doesn't seem to mind the revolving door given his likeness of fondling with the government world.
The Steve Jobs of real life and the Steve Jobs of memory are much different people.
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One of the only (maybe the only) funny jokes Joel McHale had at the White House Correspondents Dinner: "Its good to see that White House press secretary and boy detective Jay Carney is here."
He really is quite youthful. I enjoyed watching him on Charlie Rose recently to hear his side of things. But I enjoy listening to everyone on every side of an issue.
Regarding this position, seems like a demotion to me if the job is really being the PR chief. Apple is a big company, but its PR interests are far less complicated than all the interesting complexities of politics he could be involved inincluding Apple's politics. I could see him working for Apple more as as a lobbying force with different agencies, like the FCC and FDA (for their new biometric stuff they're supposedly coming out with) or for just exerting their preferences on Congress or the president. Or maybe that is what a PR chief does, but it seemed like Katie Cotton was more involved with things like product roll outs and responding to the press.
He really is quite youthful. I enjoyed watching him on Charlie Rose recently to hear his side of things. But I enjoy listening to everyone on every side of an issue.
Regarding this position, seems like a demotion to me if the job is really being the PR chief. Apple is a big company, but its PR interests are far less complicated than all the interesting complexities of politics he could be involved inincluding Apple's politics. I could see him working for Apple more as as a lobbying force with different agencies, like the FCC and FDA (for their new biometric stuff they're supposedly coming out with) or for just exerting their preferences on Congress or the president. Or maybe that is what a PR chief does, but it seemed like Katie Cotton was more involved with things like product roll outs and responding to the press.
What if Apple was considering Ari Fleischer or Dana Parino? Both former George W Bush press secretaries. Dana Parino is now on Fox News.
Is it April fools in July? Seriously Tim? Why would you have anyone involved in government on the short list? There has to be better candidates for your PR chief than a political hack. Pretty soon Apple's executive ranks will be full of former Obama staffers.
This is a disturbing pattern if true.
They also hired Lisa Jackson formerly the head of the EPA.
Carney was one arrogant, unqualified, snob who made Robert Gibbs look glibb.
I absolutely love your signature. That is hysterical.
That was almost 3 years after Gore was last directly involved in government affairs. Jay Carney has been out of government for less than a month.
Uhhh, I think it's time to send Tim Cook my first email to him. Carney resigned for a reason, because he's full of sh**.
Tim must be drinking tap water.
Tim must be drinking tap water.
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Honestly, I think the psychological toll of lying to people's faces just got to him. It must have been humiliating.