Apple Considering Legal Options Against Immigration Executive Order

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple is considering legal action to pressure the Trump administration into rescinding its executive order on immigration, Tim Cook told The Wall Street Journal in a new interview. The news comes days after Microsoft, Amazon and other companies pledged declarations of support for Washington state's legal fight against the executive order.

    The order, signed last Friday, suspends entry of all refugees to the United States for 120 days, bans Syrian refugees for an indefinite amount of time and blocks citizens of 7 countries from entering the U.S. for 90 days. On Saturday, Cook sent an email to all Apple employees saying that the order "is not a policy we support," and that Apple's HR, Legal and Security teams were contacting employees who were affected.

    Cook says hundreds of employees have been affected by the order and that he's been contacting "very, very senior people in the White House" to tell them that rescinding the order is not only important for Apple, but because the U.S.' strength comes from its immigrant background.
    Numerous Apple employees have contacted Cook with "heart-wrenching stories" about how the ban will affect them, he says. One employee, according to the WSJ, is expecting a child and is afraid the future grandparents, which have Canadian and Iranian citizenship, wouldn't be able to meet their grandchild.

    Apple is still considering its legal options and Cook declined to elaborate on the possibilities, but did note the company wants to be both "productive" and "constructive" in its response. Opposing the order, Cook says, was a simple decision since Apple selling its devices in more than 180 countries makes it important for it to "look like the world." Finally, Cook says that part of the reason Apple opposes the order is because it would not exist if the Syrian immigrant father of Steve Jobs did not have the opportunity to come to the U.S.

    Last week, Cook spent a week in Washington, where he met with Utah senator Orrin Hatch to discuss the economy and tech industry and had dinner with Ivanka Trump and her husband Jared Kushner, one of President Trump's closest advisers.

    Outside of legal action, Apple employees have been increasing their donations to refugee relief funds, with Apple matching donations 2-to-1. The move comes as other tech companies find alternative methods to opposing the order, including Airbnb providing free housing to immigrants displaced by the order and more than 2,000 Google employees around the world staging a walkout.

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  2. Kaibelf macrumors 68020


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    Great work, Trump. Completely unnecessary drama and a huge waste of political capital spent for a vulgar (and let's he honest, racist) ego trip geared toward coddling a chunk of the country who wants a racially pure fake utopia that never actually existed.
  3. logicstudiouser macrumors 6502a


    Feb 4, 2010
    I can't get through 1 hour without hearing, seeing or reading the word 'Trump'. It is impossible!
  4. simonmet macrumors 68020


    Sep 9, 2012
    ...but happy to keep banning Iranian iTunes apps!

    Can the author please clarify. Is the donation scheme 2 (Apple) to 1 (employee) or vice versa?

    If the former I actually commend Apple. That is excellent. But I suspect the latter, which is cheap and truly pathetic and typical of the recent money-grubbing Scrooge Apple. Less than the very common 1:1 ratio.
  5. budselectjr macrumors 6502a

    Oct 6, 2009
    Immigrant background using H1-B visas instead of Americans. F off Tim. How much cash now? $240 billion? Even more laughable is arguing temporary minor inconveniences to "hundreds" of employees comes before the safety of a country.
  6. navaira macrumors 68040


    May 28, 2015
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Finally. Glad that Tim Cook is doing something more than "this is not a policy we support".
  7. glindon macrumors regular


    Jun 9, 2014
    What exactly would this lawsuit accomplish? It's not a permanent "ban" anyway. It's is a pause on entry for people from countries on the terror watch list until proper vetting procedures are made.
  8. aaronhead14 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2009
  9. thasan macrumors 65816

    Oct 19, 2007
    Right. How many nationals from those 7 countries killed how American over the past 15 years?
    How many white Americans have killed other Americans over the past 15 years?

    Keep drinking what's left of the golden shower dude.
  10. budselectjr macrumors 6502a

    Oct 6, 2009
    Just recently the Ohio State attacker in November injured 13 people. St. Cloud mall attack injured 10 people. Manhattan bomb explosion in September injured 29 people.

    I'm sorry they have already taken over your side of the world. We aren't going to become the next Germany or Sweden.
  11. MH01 Suspended


    Feb 11, 2008
    This is brilliant for Cook he can deflect from the product pipeline to politics.

    Though while playing politics I like how Cook chooses to make no mention or Question in relation to Chinese controversial policies , money first!

    I'm all for him taking a stance , not the hypocrisy though.
  12. c0ppo macrumors 65816


    Feb 11, 2013
    Racist, homophobic, islamophobic, etc.

    Now we mentioned all of those, and we can get them out of the way. Since that's the only 'argument' anyone uses these days.

    Trump isn't racist. He is a hypocrit. If he really was racist, he would ban Qatar, Saudis, etc. as well, since those are the places that support terrorists. And of course, they also support Hillary :)
  13. iHack13 macrumors regular


    Jun 10, 2009
    city of octoberfest
    Well Trump is smart. In an evil way. He feeds the racial hate of the plebs whilst maintaining his business in other Arab countries that he excluded from the ban. From these countries came more terrorists than those allegedly accused banned countries. And more money of course
  14. Sefstah macrumors 6502a

    Dec 21, 2015
    Exactly. I wish people would understand this and quit acting like its the end of the world. Most of the protesters aren't even affected by this and just want something to complain about.
  15. macs4nw, Feb 1, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2017

    macs4nw macrumors 601


    I too smell a little self-interest by the Apples, Microsofts and Amazons of the world. They can look mighty good and PC opposing this temporary measure, all the while having been reaping the benefit of cheap immigrant labor.

    I detect a hint of hypocrisy there. If they wanted so much to make the newcomers feel welcome and respected, they would pay them equal wages for equal work.
  16. Dekema2 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 27, 2012
    WNY or Utica
    Whether you agree or disagree with the intent, I'm sure you'd agree that the implementation was not only severely bungled, but also led to some serious backlash and consequences.
  17. mozumder macrumors 6502a

    Mar 9, 2009
    Sorry but we liberals will make sure they will also take over America.
  18. Romey-Rome macrumors regular

    Oct 23, 2012
    The restriction will be over before the case even goes anywhere.
  19. gleepskip macrumors regular


    Apr 29, 2005
    Keep going, Tim. Doing a great job out there on the Loop. Soon we'll look back to a time when Apple used to be a technology company instead of a languishing social justice flagbearer.
  20. MagicHAM macrumors 6502


    Sep 2, 2013
    I don't see how this "lawsuit" can achieve anything. It's his prime directive and doesn't Apple want to support giving their own jobs to their own people in their own country for flying sake? It's bad enough the jobs going overseas.

    Tim pull your head in. In fact Microsoft and Google, who are also participating in this kind of anarchy should also pull their head in too.
  21. Zarniwoop, Feb 1, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2017

    Zarniwoop macrumors 65816

    Aug 12, 2009
    West coast, Finland
    What, terrorist have blasted Sweden and Germany to the orbit? USA is already much diverse than either of these countries. Those who made terrorist attacks in France mostly had French or Belgium passport and originated from the Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia. They were already citizens, some even second generation citizens. The refugees didn't have much to do with theses attacks.
  22. gleepskip macrumors regular


    Apr 29, 2005
    Sounds like a very compelling reason to exercise every caution.
  23. dave2010 macrumors regular

    Jul 23, 2014
    Gee, it would be nice if Apple paid some more taxes and did something to improve working conditions in their contracted chinese labor camps too.
    Maybe Tim could do a deal with Trump where they pay some more tax, build some things in the USA and then the administration might be more able to listen to him rather than this approach?
  24. c0ppo macrumors 65816


    Feb 11, 2013
    Exactly my point. I really don't know anything about his business, and I really don't care. But he is a hypocrit, nothing more, nothing less. Same as any other politician in the world. Racist? Nahh, that doesn't pay off. Racist card is for those who either lack brains to think for themselves, or those who are lazy to think and just feed of media.
  25. SoN1NjA macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2016
    the pool
    An 18 month vetting procedure isn't proper?

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