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Apple Considering Rebranding Mac OS X Under New 'iOS' Umbrella?

Belly-laughs said:
I'm not too keen on a name change but adding a touch layer in OS X is a great idea. It could be dashboard like, triggered with a hotkey. Not only would it allow lots of little apps like widgets are today but the best part would be the inclusion of a touch mode in normal apps, with an interface more tuned towards gestures and multitouch. Say you're doing some image editing and feel like doing some hand drawing; enter application touch mode — could be very handy and elegant.
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Thex1138 said:
Ruined?

The recording artists would beg to differ on that...

The only one's who ruined it were the record companies who've screwed artists and underpaid them for decades for corporate profit.
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Your last sentence doesn't make sense.

And Apple did ruin it. Remember all of those tapes and CD albums people used to buy? Not anymore. Now people just buy (or pirate) individual songs. And the iTunes Store brought many of the songs out in digital form on the internet in the first place. Then they got rid of DRM. While DRM could be removed before, it was annoying. People just authorized 5 computers. Now Apple doesn't care if you make copies all over an organization of the song.

The Beatles are right to refuse the iTunes Store. It's getting all of the artists stuck selling a song for 60 cents to $1.60. And few actually buy the entire album. And Apple collects transaction fees.
 
robeddie said:
The time lapse between System 7 and System 7.6 was more than 6 YEARS. The mac operating system slowed down because it had matured, stabilized.

I feel the same thing has happened with OSx. Many seem to feel development has slowed down because Apple is ignoring it. I feel it's slowed down because there's much less that needs to be done with it at this point. It's reached that level of maturity.

Exactly what are all these revolutionary features and changes everyone is still hoping for from OSX anyway? It's already a world class piece of software.
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No! I meant slowed down in general. Not the OS. I meant all of those apps you download for your Mac (and widgets) are now thrown in the corner. Apple doesn't have a downloads tab on their site anymore. You have to to go apple.com/downloads. It's hidden.

People are developing games for mobile devices. It would be a waste to do it for Macs. I personally would do the same. More people use/will use mobile devices than Macs. It's a bigger market.

And same with all of those new apps. I've already seen many of the originally Mac applications turned into iPhone versions. I've seen Xplane, for example, never updated on the Mac version but aggressively sold on iPhone/iPT.

You can never stabilize innovative software. Then it wouldn't be innovative.

I'm pretty sure Adobe cares a lot more about getting flash onto the Apple mobile platform than fixing the many problems on the Mac platform. Seriously, Jobs is right. Adobe Flash Player is the leading cause of Mac crashes and slowdowns. That's why I use click2flash :cool:
 
How dare Apple move forward and rebrand their OS. I'm still pissed that they went from MAC System Software to MAC OS. What the hell are these engineers thinking?
 
faroZ06 said:
Your last sentence doesn't make sense.

And Apple did ruin it. Remember all of those tapes and CD albums people used to buy? Not anymore. Now people just buy (or pirate) individual songs. And the iTunes Store brought many of the songs out in digital form on the internet in the first place. Then they got rid of DRM. While DRM could be removed before, it was annoying. People just authorized 5 computers. Now Apple doesn't care if you make copies all over an organization of the song.

The Beatles are right to refuse the iTunes Store. It's getting all of the artists stuck selling a song for 60 cents to $1.60. And few actually buy the entire album. And Apple collects transaction fees.
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IMHO Apple (and others) still need to have a radical rethink on prices of "virtual" media.

Let's see my choices shall we?

Some music, that's been out a while

1: Pay $10 for a real double CD and have it delivered to my house, then if I wish I can loan it to the kids, or even lend it to a mate to see if he also likes it. If I get fed up, I can always sell it on for say $5 to someone else.

2: Pay $20 to download it to iTunes and have it instantly.
It's a worse quality as it's compressed mp3, I can't loan it to anyone else, and it had no resale value at all.

3: Pay $0 and download a pirate copy instantly, still mp3, so not as good as a real CD and has no resale value, but hey it's free.


The best quality and value option really is No.1
You get the real item, the best quality, you can load/give it to a friend/family member or you can sell on if you get fed up.

The least value option is No.2 and offered to us "trendy types" by Apple.

I think virtual media should be priced a LOT lower than the real higher quality physical version.
 
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vitrector said:
I think Apple will have to go that way if for no other reason than that there are really not any interesting, cool cat names left for naming a bunch more OS X releases ...
iOS could allow Apple to expand into another animal family naming convention!
E.g.:
iOS 1 Grizzly
iOS 2 Koala
iOS 3 Brown
iOS 4 Polar
etc.

Admittedly not as cool as cats

instead, maybe:
iOS Black Widow
iOS Tarantula
then again, maybe not
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you forgot TEDDY!
LOL
-david

By the way there are 41 + or - distinct cat species present on Earth today including all house cats as domesticated under 1.
And approximately 47 distinct extinct cats. Just wanted to toss that out there!
 
the i originally stood for internet. The original imacs, ibooks, etc. Steve said so way back when. So now we're going to name an entire operating system for personal computers for "the internet". I don't even have a network hooked up to my Powermac G5; I use it strictly for work.

Ugh, someone please flog Steve Jobs.
 
Piggie said:
IMHO Apple (and others) still need to have a radical rethink on prices of "virtual" media.

Let's see my choices shall we?

Some music, that's been out a while

1: Pay $10 for a real double CD and have it delivered to my house, then if I wish I can loan it to the kids, or even lend it to a mate to see if he also likes it. If I get fed up, I can always sell it on for say $5 to someone else.

2: Pay $20 to download it to iTunes and have it instantly.
It's a worse quality as it's compressed mp3, I can't loan it to anyone else, and it had no resale value at all.

3: Pay $0 and download a pirate copy instantly, still mp3, so not as good as a real CD and has no resale value, but hey it's free.


The best quality and value option really is No.1
You get the real item, the best quality, you can load/give it to a friend/family member or you can sell on if you get fed up.

The least value option is No.2 and offered to us "trendy types" by Apple.

I think virtual media should be priced a LOT lower than the real higher quality physical version.
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damn right... +1
 
Piggie said:
IMHO Apple (and others) still need to have a radical rethink on prices of "virtual" media.

Let's see my choices shall we?

Some music, that's been out a while

1: Pay $10 for a real double CD and have it delivered to my house, then if I wish I can loan it to the kids, or even lend it to a mate to see if he also likes it. If I get fed up, I can always sell it on for say $5 to someone else.

2: Pay $20 to download it to iTunes and have it instantly.
It's a worse quality as it's compressed mp3, I can't loan it to anyone else, and it had no resale value at all.

3: Pay $0 and download a pirate copy instantly, still mp3, so not as good as a real CD and has no resale value, but hey it's free.


The best quality and value option really is No.1
You get the real item, the best quality, you can load/give it to a friend/family member or you can sell on if you get fed up.

The least value option is No.2 and offered to us "trendy types" by Apple.

I think virtual media should be priced a LOT lower than the real higher quality physical version.
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Don't know about first, but second and third are false or just one case of many.
 
EVERYBODY let's stop buying iDevices

Before it's too late for our Macs

iPad (WiFi+3G) is more expensive than MacMini
 
faroZ06 said:
Actually before OS 8 it was called System 7. So they already ended the System tradition in OS 8.
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I know that. Mac OS 7.6 (this was the first version to be called Mac OS) was introduced in January 1997 which was 13 years ago. First System shipped with the original Macintosh in 1984. That means there was also 13 years between the first System and renaming it as Mac OS. So yeah, both traditions are equally long at this point (Mac OS is about to take the lead, if it already hasn't).

In 1997 there was no overlapping with any other existing OS. Those were the times when Apple = Mac. There was no other hardware using something called "Mac OS".

This time Apple would rename the desktop OS the same as their mobile OS which is totally different from the desktop one. I am aware that iOS is based on Mac OS X (very much so, have looked "under the hood" a few times) but what about the Average Joe who isn't? The end users never see the similarities between Mac OS X and iOS, and this would be a massive source of confusion.
 
If Apple, Inc does away with their line of computers, and/or totally destroys their desktop operating system in favor of making the iOS mainstream for computers, I'll be running far far away from apple, Inc. Only reason I have an iPhone or any of Apple's consumer electronics products is because they go so well with Apple's line of computers and the operating systems which run on said computers. The current model Apple is using for their products is what keeps me using their products. If anything that looks and runs like the current iOS as we know it ends up running on my MacBook Pro, I'll be replacing all of my apple products with other things.

Of course, my statements made in this post become void if Apple pulls off something amazing.

Jobs needs to make sure he keeps doing his job in making sure both the mainstream consumer market and Apple's fan niche are both equally happy. Jobs could possibly get away with moving completely mainstream since the majority of the consumer market could give two #%^s what Apple does since all they care about is their precious iPods and iPhones.
 
I don't like it either

Piggie said:
IMHO Apple (and others) still need to have a radical rethink on prices of "virtual" media.

Let's see my choices shall we?

Some music, that's been out a while

1: Pay $10 for a real double CD and have it delivered to my house, then if I wish I can loan it to the kids, or even lend it to a mate to see if he also likes it. If I get fed up, I can always sell it on for say $5 to someone else.

2: Pay $20 to download it to iTunes and have it instantly.
It's a worse quality as it's compressed mp3, I can't loan it to anyone else, and it had no resale value at all.

3: Pay $0 and download a pirate copy instantly, still mp3, so not as good as a real CD and has no resale value, but hey it's free.


The best quality and value option really is No.1
You get the real item, the best quality, you can load/give it to a friend/family member or you can sell on if you get fed up.

The least value option is No.2 and offered to us "trendy types" by Apple.

I think virtual media should be priced a LOT lower than the real higher quality physical version.
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First of all, it's not compressed MP3 anymore. It's AAC (Apple Lossless).
Also, you typically buy CDs at the store.
And lastly, people like to have a click-n'-download thing.

I don't use the iTunes Store. The trouble is that so many people do that it ruins the music industry.
 
You aren't forced!

wildcat90 said:
If Apple, Inc does away with their line of computers, and/or totally destroys their desktop operating system in favor of making the iOS mainstream for computers, I'll be running far far away from apple, Inc. Only reason I have an iPhone or any of Apple's consumer electronics products is because they go so well with Apple's line of computers and the operating systems which run on said computers. The current model Apple is using for their products is what keeps me using their products. If anything that looks and runs like the current iOS as we know it ends up running on my MacBook Pro, I'll be replacing all of my apple products with other things.

Of course, my statements made in this post become void if Apple pulls off something amazing.

Jobs needs to make sure he keeps doing his job in making sure both the mainstream consumer market and Apple's fan niche are both equally happy. Jobs could possibly get away with moving completely mainstream since the majority of the consumer market could give two #%^s what Apple does since all they care about is their precious iPods and iPhones.
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Remember, you buy the updated OS. Apple doesn't force it onto your MacBook (unlike Microsoft's reign of terror upon IE with its Bing garbage).
 
Mac OS X is maybe going to be called iOS from now on?

Well, that sounds like an extremely dumb idea, as a matter of fact it is iDumb and iStupid, not to mention iIdiotic and iLame.
 
iThink iAM going to bust an iGut iF they don't stop using "i" for every iProduct they make.
^The official iFormat. (every noun is preceded by an "i" and every word starting with an "i" and is lowercased with the second letter uppercased. Also, instead of using the word "i", you append it to the following word and upper case the first letter of the following word and lowercase the "i".) FTW :):D:apple:
 
Unless I live in a different world to many here.

In real stores on the high street, and on web sites, after a music CD has been out for a while it often drops in price (depending on what it is)

Sometimes half price or less.

With on-line shopping you often get free delivery on CD's

If nothing else Virtual sales from Apple and EVERYONE else, needs to follow this example.

If a CD has been out for 12 or 18 months and is now discount online and in high street shops, then why is it still full price in iTunes?

From the very outset, is should be cheaper, as it has no resale value, and you can't even give it away to friends.

So, in reality, say a $15 new CD. That should be, say $10 for a virtual copy, and if goes on special offer in stores and online, then the virtual copy should also drop.
 
Piggie said:
Unless I live in a different world to many here.

In real stores on the high street, and on web sites, after a music CD has been out for a while it often drops in price (depending on what it is)

Sometimes half price or less.

With on-line shopping you often get free delivery on CD's

If nothing else Virtual sales from Apple and EVERYONE else, needs to follow this example.

If a CD has been out for 12 or 18 months and is now discount online and in high street shops, then why is it still full price in iTunes?

From the very outset, is should be cheaper, as it has no resale value, and you can't even give it away to friends.

So, in reality, say a $15 new CD. That should be, say $10 for a virtual copy, and if goes on special offer in stores and online, then the virtual copy should also drop.
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Your logic is completely wrong. While you may enjoy going to record stores and buying CD's with only one song you want for a higher price than what they are selling on iTunes, go ahead. However, 99.9% of the world likes the fact that they can download individual songs or albums at a discounted price right to their device without ever leaving their home. In fact, I don't even use the computer version of iTunes, I use iTunes on my iPod to download songs directly to the device, it's extremely easy. iTunes is the only reason why iPods and all Apple iDevices have been successful, people can download as little or as much of the content they want right from their home and all in one place. They can get movies, music, books, TV shows, you name it. CHEAPER than their retail alternatives, and have it directly downloaded right to their device without ripping entire CD's to their computer. How else besides using digital stores for content would anyone be able to get content on their MP3 players or phones with DRM and all? iTunes is not killing the music or movie industry, it's killing the record store industry.
 
rkw0211 said:
Your logic is completely wrong. While you may enjoy going to record stores and buying CD's with only one song you want for a higher price than what they are selling on iTunes, go ahead. However, 99.9% of the world likes the fact that they can download individual songs or albums at a discounted price right to their device without ever leaving their home. In fact, I don't even use the computer version of iTunes, I use iTunes on my iPod to download songs directly to the device, it's extremely easy. iTunes is the only reason why iPods and all Apple iDevices have been successful, people can download as little or as much of the content they want right from their home and all in one place. They can get movies, music, books, TV shows, you name it. CHEAPER than their retail alternatives, and have it directly downloaded right to their device without ripping entire CD's to their computer. How else besides using digital stores for content would anyone be able to get content on their MP3 players or phones with DRM and all? iTunes is not killing the music or movie industry, it's killing the record store industry.
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this is so wrong.... I'm embarrased for you...
 
faroZ06 said:
First of all, it's not compressed MP3 anymore. It's AAC (Apple Lossless).
Also, you typically buy CDs at the store.
And lastly, people like to have a click-n'-download thing.

I don't use the iTunes Store. The trouble is that so many people do that it ruins the music industry.
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The format is still 256 kbps lossy AAC. That is much lower quality than 500-700 kbps lossless .wav or .aiff, the cd standard. The issue is not compression - which can be done with either lossy or lossless format - but lossy vs lossless; thats what makes the quality difference. Lossy means they are deleting real musical information on the original recording; lossless keeps it all intact. That is why I haven't bought a single song or album from iTunes.
 
Apple has been on the 10th version of the Mac OS for about 10 years now. It is time for them to do something. OS 11 isn't as catchy as Mac OS X or iOS
 
CaryMacGuy said:
Apple has been on the 10th version of the Mac OS for about 10 years now. It is time for them to do something. OS 11 isn't as catchy as Mac OS X or iOS
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"But this one goes up to eleven"
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