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Makes sense. Unify everything.

Those who voted this negative continue to be lame, and will again be proven wrong by Apple.

As usual.

A lot of you should simply be done with it and join the Winblows-sufferers on Neowin.
 
Even if your 2006 MB could, Apple probably wouldn't allow it through some sneaky software check. After all, why support old hardware and earn nothing when you could support new models only and earn lots? Such is the nature of business these days. :(

Most likely right. I do think it might be kind off fun to run both, but I don't know if my (2006) Macbook could handle that. But on the other hand, why not... I can run Windows.
 
How short-sighted that so many people assume this means a degradation of Mac OS. Do you really think it means you will have iOS on your mac and will only be able to surf the web? Apparently many can't stretch their imagination.

Apparently you haven't noticed the lack of development on OSX?
 
X means 10. Anyway, bad for us Mac users.

They can't stay at Mac OS X. X means version 10. Now it means "we kept this name for 10 years because everything else sounds stupid".

I wanted Apple products to be used a lot more in 2003 when nothing was made for Mac. Now it's gone in the wrong direction for me. While the iPhone/iPad is a wonderful device that Apple should make, it's bad for me in particular.

The iOS rename is just showing that Apple (now bigger than Microsoft) is focusing on consumers. They're no longer a specialist computer company.

Anything that pairs my Mac with something I don't have is bad. Really, all I have is a jailbroken, now OS-faulty iPhone (original) my brother found in an eWaste recycling bin.

Then again, my (2006 iMac) computer is only old when I update it to a new OS! :D

However, it saddens me to see that the Mac OS will not be developed as much anymore (like it hasn't been since that blasted iPod came out!!!)
Notice how the Downloads section on Apple.com has been replaced by the iPad tab (and they made iPod and iTunes separate). At least they still have FireWire on their computers (well...that may end soon) except for the MacBook Air (which sucks).

So the iPad/iPhone is on Apple's priority. Well I'm not buying it.
 
However, it saddens me to see that the Mac OS will not be developed as much anymore (like it hasn't been since that blasted iPod came out!!!)

Mac OSX and the iPod were both released in 2001.

October 23, 2001 - iPod
24 March 2001 - Mac OSX

These death to mac comments are stupid.

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Sorry, those are Microsoft names...

As the only thing really differing in the two OSs is the human interface layer, it is fair to unite the system under one name.

But why iOS?

Lets make a list of much better names for such a system. Remember that the apple logo was taken from the center to the left again during the transition from 10.0 to 10.1 due to tons of user requests? Maybe we are able to get a nice name which everybody recognizes instantly. My list:

- Kitty (after all those cats)
- EROS (because we love it so much. Nah, I don't think this will work)
- ISA (iSystem of Apple)
- LISA (Lovable ISA, yeah, I know, this one is already taken)
- Xi (the wonderful curvy greek letter. Combines the X and the i)
- Ida (iDevices from Apple)
- Daria (From Darwin, but somehow changed to female. I just like that name)
- ...

My favourite is Xi.

Apple would never give their OS those names. It could be dogs (Wolf, Coyote, etc.) or snakes (Cobra, Viper) or iDesk or iOS or something. Actually iOS is pretty good except for its similarity to the iPhone OS. I personally like dogs :D .

And to those people saying "Chill, it's just a rename", read the article. It said UNIFICATION. I would never unify my powerful, trustworthy, professional Mac with a girly iPhone!
 
Mac OSX and the iPod were both released in 2001.



These death to mac comments are stupid, they could simply be unifying their eco-system further.

I said Mac OS! Not OS X. There's a difference (OS 9, OS 8, System 7, etc.).

And the OS X Beta was in 2000, right?
 
Correction

Like countless people in this thread (admit I didn't read the whole thread), I'm not happy to hear this kind of rumors.

I mean, Mac OS has such a long history of representing Apple's desktop operating system it would be a shame if they changed that to something else and ended that tradition. And as Steve said during the WWDC keynote about the "iOS" name, Mac OS "just rolls off the tongue" as well.


-- Mac user using Mac OS X.

Actually before OS 8 it was called System 7. So they already ended the System tradition in OS 8.
 
Just Saying

Maybe not in 10.7, maybe later. Who knows?

But consider other things Steve has said:

- Apple will never get into the phone business
- Apple will never get into the music business
- Apple won' be making a tablet

Apple ruined the music business. It wasn't their fault though. Those producers should have kept away from Apple (especially with the DRM-free downloads!). They were asking for it. Now every song is cheap (well........).
 
yes he did but to expand he said that he thought that "pc's" would be like trucks in that when the automobile was invented trucks had a virtual 100% marketshare. As life changed and the car took over the market share for trucks went to 3 or 4%.

so he's saying that the computer market as we know it (300 mill machines per year) will be 9 to 12 million units in the near future, everyone will replace then with portable tablet like devices.

he didn't say that PC's would be running OSX though.

remember if you disagree with iCon you are agreeing with the other Steve ;-)

edit:

RANCHO PALOS VERDES, Calif.--At the D8 conference here, Steve Jobs didn't whip out the newest iPhone or tell us which category will be next to get an "i" before it, but his words offered a glimpse of where the iconic CEO thinks the industry is headed.

Speaking for an hour and a half at the D: All Things Digital confab, Jobs said the day is coming when only one out of every few people will need a traditional computer.

"When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks because that's what you needed on the farms." Cars became more popular as cities rose, and things like power steering and automatic transmission became popular.

"PCs are going to be like trucks," Jobs said. "They are still going to be around." However, he said, only "one out of x people will need them."

Jobs said advances in chips and software will allow tablet devices like the iPad to do tasks that today are really only suited for a traditional computer, things like video editing and graphic arts work.

The move, Jobs said, will make many PC veterans uneasy, "because the PC has taken us a long ways."

"We like to talk about the post-PC era, but when it really starts to happen, it's uncomfortable," he said.

Jobs noted that people still laugh at him when he talks about the iPad as magical, and he tried to put that feeling into more concrete terms. "You have a much more direct and intimate relationship with the Internet and media and apps and your content," Jobs said. "It's like some intermediate thing has been removed and stripped away. Like that Claritin commercial where they strip away the film--it's like that."


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20006526-56.html

Good. I don't want all of these consumers bogging up our development. Give them all iPads and they'll shut up. Then the only Mac users will be dedicated users.
 
insults

All this fuss over a name change is a bunch of "tail wagging the dog" nonsense.

Apple isn't going to abandon the Mac. Insane people draw insane conclusions, one of which would be for Apple to do this. The emphasis now obviously has to be on iOS products like iPhone and iPad as they're new and burgeoning and stand to bring a lot more non-Apple people into the fold, as well as to establish new mobile technologies such as multi-touch and Face Time.

I think the rebranding makes sense and will help unify and actually newly EMPHASIZE the desktop Mac and server products rather than abandon them. They all share much the same code and therefore SHOULD be under one umbrella brand. "iOS" will also avoid the awkwardness of dealing with double-digit dot versions of OSX.

"iOS" is also a better designation than various others broached by others in this article thread. It's more personal and puts proper emphasis on users than, for example, whatever "Windoze" has done over its span of time. It's at least less arbitrary than the increasingly meaningless OSX moniker.
 
I really can't imagine everyone going tablet for work. Video editing, and graphics on a little tablet? Just don't buy it. As far as I know from experience, editors and graphic artists love their huge screens and powerful machines. iMovie on iPhone is a joke.

What Jobs is engaging in appears to be the forceful dumbing down of society. We should be encouraging productivity, not removing the tools that do so. Either Jobs knows something we really don't, or he has lost his mind.

It's just to get all of those consumers or people who don't need all of the features off of our professional, specialist platform. If it works for them fine. Remember, most people have MacBook Pros 13" and don't even use them for what they are made for. They just use eMail, GarageBand, iChat, Skype (fools wasting their bandwidth on that P2P leech!), and Pages/Word. Get them off of our platform. Push them onto the iPad. At least we don't have to cope with iMovie '08 and '09 and other lame-o apps.

Really, the tablet IS the consumer PC. Be happy if you're only using iPad features. You know it comes with a keyboard (real) and they're making big-screen models. I'd switch if I didn't need all of these features (I'm a videographer). (And I love 3rd party downloads). Consumers don't care. If they can't use it, it's a waste of cash. I went to the Apple Store with an issue, and they assumed that I had a laptop and told me to bring it in. Yeah.......24" iMac......FAT........

I had to use my iMac as a laptop (ahem--cart-top) before for school...Not fun...
 
Dude, Mac OSX just proved you wrong. Mac OSX is Mac OS, (Silly) and had more significant changes in its lifetime than Mac OS Classic.

No, you said that the iPod and Mac OS X came out at the same time. I don't care. I'm talking about the Mac OS in general. What I mean is that once the iPod came out, non-Mac users suddenly became Apple fans/users.

And Mac OS X is Mac OS, but Mac OS isn't Mac OS X.

You're saying that a rectangle is a square because a square is a rectangle.

AND LIKE I SAID OS X CAME FIRST!!! OS X Server 1.0 was released in 1999! OS X Public Beta was released in 2000! And Cheetah (10.0) was released months before the iPod! Get with the facts.
 
Read carefully.

. . . are myopic idiots.

All this fuss over a name change is a bunch of "tail wagging the dog" nonsense.

Apple isn't going to abandon the Mac. Insane people draw insane conclusions, one of which would be for Apple to do this. The emphasis now obviously has to be on iOS products like iPhone and iPad as they're new and burgeoning and stand to bring a lot more non-Apple people into the fold, as well as to establish new mobile technologies such as multi-touch and Face Time.

I think the rebranding makes sense and will help unify and actually newly EMPHASIZE the desktop Mac and server products rather than abandon them. They all share much the same code and therefore SHOULD be under one umbrella brand. "iOS" will also avoid the awkwardness of dealing with double-digit dot versions of OSX.

"iOS" is also a better designation than various others broached by others in this article thread. It's more personal and puts proper emphasis on users than, for example, whatever "Windoze" has done over its span of time. It's at least less arbitrary than the increasingly meaningless OSX moniker.

I'm not saying Mac is dying. I'm saying, development is slowed down. Apple now supports consumers, unlike before. They focus on the crowd more. Macs won't die. The development will be slowed (remember how Mac development was seriously slowed by Windows? cause people used Windows more. Now more people will use the iPad or iPhone if they don't already).
 
My stance

I know it's a name change. I worry about the unification. Mac development is slowing (It won't stop! It will slow like it already has.).

I don't think that Macs will die.

I do think that most consumers will switch to iPads/iPhones.

I don't care about the name change that much. OS X was old (and X means 10) and the other suggested names are not very good.

Macs may become pro computers once again once all of the consumers leave for iPads.

Apple, now bigger than Microsoft, has to serve the crowd more. The iPad will likely be their main focus as it is a wonderful device.

I only care about development slowdown. I hate seeing iPhone versions of my beloved Mac apps. I don't care about the OS update as I will not be updating my 10.5 iMac 24" (late 2006). Remember, only upgrade your OS once if you have a top-of-the-line computer. Otherwise, stay at the OS your computer came with.
 
iOS sounds like a toy thing. Mac OS X earned respect for being stable, user-friendly and safe. Name switch would be a bad idea.
The reallocation of developers to the iPhone OS really slowed down the Mac OS development. It now should not be subordinate in name.

They are so damn rich, they should hire more OS developers. I guess it is not so easy to coordinate a developer team for an OS, must be tightly integrated. Maybe even with all the money, you can't hire to many devs at once, for reasons of coordination.

Ok, Snow Leopard was a major overhaul, but there are only benefits if software developers use the new tools and hooks they are provided with.
 
No, you said that the iPod and Mac OS X came out at the same time. I don't care. I'm talking about the Mac OS in general.

And Mac OSX is Mac OS since Mac OS is a term to refer to Apple's line of operating systems. Hence I've been using OSX release as an example. Mac OS versions have actually become more frequent since the release of the iPod.

Does the roman numeral instead of a modern numeral confuse you that much?

What I mean is that once the iPod came out, non-Mac users suddenly became Apple fans/users.

You're seriously butthurt over Apple gaining new user base that's not from Mac OS?

And Mac OS X is Mac OS, but Mac OS isn't Mac OS X.

Mac OS is a general term used to describe their line of operating systems. Remember mac OSX is Mac OS 10.

Mac OS 8,*9, 10


OSX Server wasn't actually OSX, not technologically anyway. The relation is purely labelling.

The first version of Mac OS X was Mac OS X Server 1.0. Mac OS X Server 1.0 was based on Rhapsody 5.3, a hybrid of OPENSTEP from NeXT Computer and Mac OS 8.5.1. The GUI looked like a mixture of Mac OS 8's Platinum appearance with OPENSTEP's NeXT-based interface. It included a runtime layer called Blue Box for running legacy Mac OS-based applications within a separate window. There was discussion of implementing a 'transparent blue box' which would intermix Mac OS applications with those written for Rhapsody's Yellow Box environment, but this would not happen until Mac OS X's Classic environment. Apple File Services, Macintosh Manager, QuickTime Streaming Server, WebObjects and NetBoot was included with Mac OS X Server 1.0.

I'm more than sure that the iPod was developed in a much longer time period than a couple of months.
 
iOS on top of X

I'm not too keen on a name change but adding a touch layer in OS X is a great idea. It could be dashboard like, triggered with a hotkey. Not only would it allow lots of little apps like widgets are today but the best part would be the inclusion of a touch mode in normal apps, with an interface more tuned towards gestures and multitouch. Say you're doing some image editing and feel like doing some hand drawing; enter application touch mode — could be very handy and elegant.
 
Hey nerdy nerd-nerds. (Yeah. You too!)

Apple knows this community exists. The powerful OSX we know isn't going to just disappear. Think big. Its an evolution not a revolution in the operating system of the Apple world.

Relax. Oh. And its just a rumor :(

:apple:

These macs serve a huge purpose and aren't going to turn into big iPads overnight.

Remember. We all like Apple for all the hundreds of things they've done for us, and the technology industry. They aren't just gonna change things overnight. I don't know about you, but I don't quite get how amazing the OSX name is. Cause OSX means 10.1 and 10.2. and 10.3. or Snow Leopard. Or Tiger. It's kind of not the awesome.... So imagine the next OS launch that blows everyones minds away. And then they call is 10.7. Is that really a good idea? Or perhaps iOS desktop would blow people away more.....


-The dude who can't handle seeing 700+ "negatives" on such a lame rumor



thing is that despite recent successes, OSX market share is still just one notch above being statistically irrelevant (worldwide)

and yet Apple has this massive brand awareness and following amongst iOS customers, its an obvious and logical move to try and move that leverage to another market.

I also think that anti competitive rules, especially in Europe, will force Apple to release an iOS sdk for other platforms.
 
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