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[...]The service is available within iTunes on the desktop and the Music app for iOS, allowing users create channels based on artists, genres or songs. To bring attention to the service and increase engagement[...]

It makes sense, hiding it in the music app can't be good for visibility.[...]

Bring it in more countries would surely help to "bring attention to the service and increase engagement" too...

I think it needs to be in more countries before that happens.

Exactly what I'm thinking! :)
 
As far as I am concerned I would be happy with this change if Apple allowed us to delete stock apps, with the exception of the AppStore. Why the AppStore, you ask? Simple. If I delete a necessary app, Apple can simply make them all available on the Appstore for me to re-download. I am willing to bet the vast majority of iOS users have a junk folder, or some similar folder that never gets opened, filled with apps that never get used but also cannot be deleted.

I seriously don't know why they don't do this. It would allow for these Apps to be updatable without an ENTIRE OS release. Remember how buggy music was before 7.1? How nice would it have been for Apple to patch JUST THAT APP, rather than have to wait for them to plug up "all" the holes in 7.0.x before giving us 7.1

Apple has tekn so many of the good things from Android and incorporated them into iOS, some in their own unique way. Baffling that this isn't something they would want to have adopted YEARS ago.
 
I'm all for pulling radio out of the music.app
The music app is bloated right now, it really should just be a simple media player to minimize resource usage.

Agreed. I especially wish Apple would do this with the Mac iTunes. Talk about bloatware. It's ridiculous. Literally by the time it checks the store, and updates Genius settings, and does whatever in the h*** else it needs to do it takes 2 to 3 minutes for it to open on my Mac. This is on a '12, 2.3Ghz MacBook Pro with 16GB of RAM on a high speed network, no slouch by any measure. It's just stupid that it has to update my music files when I want to watch a video. It's stupid that it needs to check my downloaded Apps when I want to listen to a song. It's some years beyond when Apple should have chopped iTunes into about 5 different apps each with a different focus. They've done it, and according to this article are continuing to do it, with the iOS media players. They need to get off their @$$s and update the Mac version.
 
There's an open space on my home screen ready and waiting. I know I will use it more once they break it out of the music app. It's science.. or psychology.. or just the fact that I will see it.
 
Well T-Mobile doesn't seem to think so and you might do yourself a service by expanding your vision on what's considered "girly". ;)
Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet ha. I was mocking another user's comment.
 
Whatever.

It's still not available in Poland, so I don't really care if there would be an extra icon for that. Even a pink one.
 
I would probably like it free standing but its another app that cannot be deleted. Not sure how that balances in general. For ex, I never use the stocks app but I cant delete it.

One thing I prefer about the iPad over the iPhone is the lack of a stocks app.
 
If this means that the Music app will get a revamp so I don't have to scroll through a thousand albums if I'm browsing by artist, then GREAT.

Apple's making AWFUL UX decisions of late.
 
Maybe teenage girls are putting more money in Apple's pockets than the "MANLY STRAPPING GUYS". :p
They do. They also buy more clothes, so the clothing industry concentrates on females. And I even have problems to find "normal" Mangas directed at a male audience, all they have is either Ecchi or Kawaii. It's hard to be in the minority of customers still looking for some good science-fiction.
What does this have to do with whether iTunes Radio is a standalone app or not? :confused:
From the users point of view, a standalone app is merely an appearance change. Just one more icon you have to look at, when browsing your phone, not only when you are inside the app. From a developers point of view, a standalone app allows more frequent updates, independently from iOS updates. When you want to talk about that aspect of being a standalone app, please do! I'm talking about the look of it.
Well T-Mobile doesn't seem to think so and you might do yourself a service by expanding your vision on what's considered "girly". ;)
T-Mobile is a marketing brand with the need to scream for attention against the competition. One of the biggest benefits of Apple being an integrated hardware and software company is, that not everything is a separate profit center. Many parts and functions of the system can spare to draw attention on themselves and just work invisibly and transparent to the user.

FAINTLY EXAMPLE: Open up a self-build PC and everything inside it shines in bright colors. The graphics card looks like a technological marvel just to proof to you, that it was right to choose this vendor over another. Open up a Mac and everting is black including the memory. You might not even find the graphics chip.

The same principle is true for software. iOS doesn't need to advertise for itself, you can't buy it separately anyway. So the system can be deemphasized, diverting all the user attention from the application chrome to the content. When I open a music app, I want all the controls to be gray, only the album art should have color. Not before a control is active (music is playing, shuffle mode is activated), it should get a systemwide (or app-specific) highlight color. Just like things work in OS X.

I disapprove the meaningless new use of color in iOS 7 in general. It makes the iPhone more like a toy and less like a tool. That pink icon just was a reminder for me. Some people dislike the use of skeuomorphism, where it doesn't need to be. And I don't like the use of color, where it does not need to be.
 
It's still not available in Poland, so I don't really care if there would be an extra icon for that. Even a pink one.
The way things are going by the end of the year you might have the Russian version in Poland.
 
I am not interested in more applications that I can't remove. Honestly many of the Apple default applications can be combined into a single productivity, entertainment, and shopping (app store and iTunes store) apps.

I think it would be more like the Podcast app, you can add it if you want, remove it etc.

I am all for this!
 
I think it would be more like the Podcast app, you can add it if you want, remove it etc.

I am all for this!

If that was the case then i'm all in. That is if they still leave it in the music app for as it is now and offer as separate app (possible with more settings and features) in the app store.
 
How is this not rolled out to Europe etc yet? The whole point of iTunes radio is to get people to buy songs.
 
If Apple wants iTunes Radio to be more successful, they should make iTunes available to everyone via the web.
How is yet another free music web service without any hardware sales a successful business? Giving things away to everyone has never been a good practice. Ad-based only works for Google, because they have a quasi-monopoly on search and via search redirected web traffic. (Please don't make me discuss the meaning of monopoly again.) iTunes Radio works for Apple, only because it only works on iOS devices. We can be happy if iTunes Radio comes to OS X with the next release. But it won't come to the web for the benefit of Windows users.
 
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I wonder how the majority of young generation thinks of that iTunes Radio logo. Do they even know what a radio looks like? That thing is straight from the 80s. Most of kids don't even know what a rotary phone is, and that radio is from the same era.
 
I never thought that I would REALLY like it, until I tried it …… and we know the rest :D…… and I'll say it pretty damn good. However, it needs to get better….. more fine tuned…… but that WILL come with age/updates/etc.
 
I didn't like the implementation at first but I'm used to it now and I'd rather not have yet another app on the home screen.
 
I wonder how the majority of young generation thinks of that iTunes Radio logo. Do they even know what a radio looks like? That thing is straight from the 80s. Most of kids don't even know what a rotary phone is, and that radio is from the same era.

You say it like it makes them ignorant. What benefit is it for 'kids these days' to know of the rotary phone? People are so quick to jump on younger generations for not knowing of things from their generation like it's such a big deal when it really doesn't matter. Kids in 25 years won't know what a DVD is either.
 
But you can move all your unwanted 'cannot delete' apps into a single folder icon to save desktop space.

You act as if that has been the case for some time. Glad they finally bumped the number of items per folder and added the ability to stick newsstand in a folder. Still not sure why I cannot hide the apps though. I don't want a folder stuffed with crap on the last page of my home screens for this.
 
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