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Apple Continues to Be the World's Most Admired Company
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Clearly the market has shown that closed down hardware + macOS/iOS is worth more than open Windows/Android and open hardware for a lot of people.
The real world isn't a la carte.
Businesses exist for the benefit of their shareholders. Trying to make them into an entity for good is clearly going to be a huge disappointment, as the last 400 years of company history has shown us.
I don't want business to stop wars since I think they're ill equipped to do so.
Companies shouldn't deal with social issues. Companies should be taxed and then the people through their representatives and the government should decide on how to address social issues.
I do know they care about my money.
So we do a trade: They get my money and I get their products and services. If I don't value their products enough, they won't get my money. If I don't pay enough, I won't get their products.
And, I don't want it any other way.
Also, I support capitalism and a free market with regulations and some restrictions. Companies making a lot of money from their customers isn't a problem for me. It's the main reason companies exist.
Apple may only provide full support for a specific macOS version for around three years but they allow owners to install new macOS versions for "free" for up to 5 to 8 years depending on model, with at least partial support of the latest compatible OS continuing beyond that.
New or updated releases of both Windows and macOS operating systems can impact the lifespan of older machines. It's not just an Apple/Mac issue.
A lot of people buy iOS and/or macOS devices but you can't "clearly" assume it’s because of the closed systems or that is the reason why they may be willing to pay more.
Globally, a lot more people buy Windows and Android devices than iOS and macOS devices which would suggest people prefer "open" systems but you can't necessarily assume that either.
Nothing is really that "clear" as far as the overall market is concerned as there can be many factors involved in choosing a particular phone or computer. A lot of people may choose a device in spite of it being "open" or "closed" rather than because it is "open" or "closed."
My MBP is maxed out at OS 10.15 (released 2019) and Steam will no longer support it in a couple of weeks. Meanwhile they continue to support Windows 10 released in 2015. Not the same at all.
Isn’t that a Valve issue though, not a Mac issue? I mean, Mac had a massive architecture change since you bought your machine, so sure, I guess that’s on Apple, but Valve could support Intel Macs if the unwanted to (assuming that’s why support is being dropped). And it’s not like Apple changes the architecture of its chips ok a regular basis.
"Apple Continues to Be the World's Most Admired Company"
....clearly they didn't poll MacRumors.
....clearly they didn't poll MacRumors.
"....clearly they didn't poll MacRumors."
I realize that you were making a joke but quite a few people posting here have missed that this survey is conducted exclusively among senior corporate executives. It's an internal research survey. The criteria that more than 3,000 executives are asked to rate corporations on are:
I realize that you were making a joke but quite a few people posting here have missed that this survey is conducted exclusively among senior corporate executives. It's an internal research survey. The criteria that more than 3,000 executives are asked to rate corporations on are:
- Ability to attract and retain talented people
- Quality of management
- Social responsibility to the community and the environment
- Innovativeness
- Quality of products or services
- Wise use of corporate assets
- Financial soundness
- Long-term investment value
- Effectiveness in doing business globally
If they don't change their Quisling ways, that's to going to change real fast.
My point was that Apple supports Macs for potentially a lot longer than just three years. MacBook Pros as early as 2018 are still compatible with the latest macOS (Sequoia) and can continue to receive at least partial support going forward.
The list isn't only about money. Apple has been ranked the #1 "most admired company" for many years, including years when they were not as high ranked in value/market cap as they are today.
Two of the top ten companies on the 2025 list have market caps below $500 billion.
I've been trying to understand your point here. The next release after Mac OS 10.15 is Big Sur 11, and that supports MacBook Pros clear back to 2013. So, was your MacBook Pro released prior to 2013?
I think it’s a Mac issue because of the short support time for each OS release. Microsoft is supporting my bootcamp partition longer than Apple is supporting my Mac. Windows get more updates for longer and so has no problem with Valve updates whereas Apple said tough luck, small feature upgrades need a full OS update
It’s 2012. And it still works and does everything I need it to. Yes it has had a good life but the what I was getting at is that the OS is not that old and only is because of unnecessary annual releases. Windows 10 gets ten years of updates, it’s on my bootcamp and Valve will support it for years. But because Apple gives 3 years of love to each OS then it’s tough beans for me.
Nutshell: on windows it’s still fine, on Mac it has become creaky.
The hardware is still very capable so it’s very annoying. (My car turned 20 this month and my laundry machines are from the 90s. I hang on to things! I hate ditching anything still functional)
Think of it as an opportunity to update your block list for the really ridiculous or trolling ones.
There certainly can be ewaste repercussions, but on the other hand, the secondary market for most Apple products has gotten even more robust as they removed most of the things that wore out or could be weak sections of cases, like battery covers and so forth. There's a lot less guessing as to whether someone may have replaced or removed memory or hard drives in newer gear, because you just can't easily do that any more.