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More importantly, what will happen to my 13 shares of AAPL on Monday after the 4Q earnings release ;)
 
More importantly, what will happen to my 13 shares of AAPL on Monday after the 4Q earnings release ;)

Depends on what usually happens when Apple releases big earnings numbers. They've beaten The Street 18 out of 19 quarters now and several have been record non-holiday quarters.
 
apple sells laptops and desktops still?

wouldnt have guessed that.
thought they focused just on phones..


p.s. 7% growth in the U.S. year-over-year is HUGE.

apple's main growth is overseas....
 
It means that when Ballmer says that Apple is statistically insignificant he is lying.

And how many of these Mac systems sold are running
BootCamp , VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Virtual Box ??

(in other words, Mac boxes run Windows also.) You'd have to be looking for Mac owners have zero copies of windows they paid for.

He was not talking in terms of "sold per month" but in installed base. The number of folks running Windows 7 beta would be a mid single digit percentage in terms of relative size of units shipped this past quarter.

It is a stretch to say statistically as opposed to finanicially insignificant... , but Apple is still deeply in the hole in terms of overall installed base. Plus the US is a skewed lens to look through. Ballmer was also talking world wide.
 
It means the pundits (on this forum and others) just might be somewhat incorrect when they claim that Apple only produces and ships products that the market doesn't want to buy. ;)

what are you talking about?

the shuffle - fail since those headphones that come with it have some mic thing in them
the nano - fail because it doesnt have a camera that can take stills
iphone - fail because of att
imac - fail because its too white
ipod touch - fail because no video
tablet - fail because of iphone sdk or whatever you call it
airport express - fail because it reminds people of flying

;)
p.s. your closest lovers are your biggest critics...
 
Apple's profit in 2009 will be about the same as profits from 1976 to 2005 together.

For Macintoshes or as a corporation? it is a different corporation now. Additionally I doubt you have adjust your dollars for inflation. Apple brought in lots of money over that span.

It is also not the individual companies that Apple is primarily competing with. While Acers profit margin may be small at the systems level the component (namely microsoft) margins are not necessarily the same.
 
what are you talking about?

the shuffle - fail since those headphones that come with it have some mic thing in them
the nano - fail because it doesnt have a camera that can take stills
iphone - fail because of att
imac - fail because its too white
ipod touch - fail because no video
tablet - fail because of iphone sdk or whatever you call it
airport express - fail because it reminds people of flying

;)
p.s. your closest lovers are your biggest critics...

Thats odd considering you listed products that are leading the market in sales.
 
It means that Apple has been selling about 8.8% of all computers in the US. In those 8.8%, every sale is counted equal - a Mac Pro for $3000 counts as one sale, a netbook for $300 also counts as one sale.

These numbers severely underestimate Apple's significance in the market. A much more realistic number would be the revenue in dollars. And Apple's profits are for example more than ten times those of Acer, which sells about 40 percent more computers (I'd say Apple's profits on computers and computer related sales are about 5-6 times those of Acer).



Apple's profit in 2009 will be about the same as profits from 1976 to 2005 together.

Sounds like :apple: should send every one who bought a new Apple computer in the last 12 months a Christmas card.
 
Apple could sell more if they were more reasonably priced and had better hardware and more customization.

Apple seems to hate GPUs, for example. Always 3 years behind PCs (but Apple would be glad to charge you premium price for an obsolete computer).
 
Balmer: "They do OK if you want to be a niche market"
a niche market closing in at 10% and coming at you with a vengence, steviekins
In 5 years time-i predict Windows will find itself unable to adapt, by its very core architecture and fall further and further behind as technical advances come to pass'
Windows is irrelevant in the 21st century
 
In 5 years time-i predict Windows will find itself unable to adapt, by its very core architecture and fall further and further behind as technical advances come to pass'

Windows is irrelevant in the 21st century

And what is there about Windows 1990's NT technology base that makes it inferior to Apple's 1970's UNIX technology base? I think that both of them have made great strides in staying up-to-date.

Irrelevant? By the fourth Thursday of November, Windows 7 will have more market share than all versions of Apple OS combined.
 

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Am I the only one who noticed that "others" growth rate is -137%. That is mathematically impossible. It should have jumped out of the page for whoever doing the double-checking if not the person preparing the table in the first place.

Sure, a simple typo, but if their quality control does not catch that, what else did they miss?

Thats not mathicatically impossible.

If Dell Sells 1000 computers in 08 and 400 in 09, their growth rate is -250% but they still sold 400 computers. The total percentage is NOT based on 100%, 10 companies can sell 20% less product.
 
Apple could sell more if they were more reasonably priced and had better hardware and more customization.

Apple seems to hate GPUs, for example. Always 3 years behind PCs (but Apple would be glad to charge you premium price for an obsolete computer).

Or more like 1 or so years off the mainstream PC?

The 3 years behind you point to is the bleeding edge. Not the normal, "middle class" graphics offering.

If the objective is to appeal to the fringe that would be a problem. If building something for the folks in the middle of the distribution curve then it isn't so much.

Graphics Vendors (like the CPU vendors) then to soak the prices on products for the upper fringe. (e.g., "extreme" Intel CPUs packages , and needs an extra link to the power supply ATI/Nvidia super cards. )

That plus relatively low volumes on Mac Pros (effectively the only market for 3rd party video. ) couple if having to deal with EFI drivers which makes lower run rates and even higher prices.
 
Toshiba showed up in the rear view mirror awfully fast.

Whatever mojo Toshiba and Acer have is threatening to leave Apple in the dust.
 
Thats not mathicatically impossible.

If Dell Sells 1000 computers in 08 and 400 in 09, their growth rate is -250%

No that is a -60% growth rate. You divide by the OLD unit number, not the new one (or what number you pulled).

( new - old ) / old = growth rate

At a 100% dive you have sell 1,000 less units; ( 0 - 1000 ) / 1000 = -100% ... Not sure HOW you sell less than zero units.

since mathematically you are constrained to the positive integers , -100% is as low as you can go (baring the quirk were both old and new are both zero units sold. Obviously zero growth but equation has problems representing that. )
 
Windows 7

No idea. We'll see what the average user has to say. This will all become clear 3-6 months into the release. Vista got rave reviews as well. Pre-release testing is no sure indication of post-release success. And MS has a penchant for finding new and interesting ways to screw up a good thing.

Not sure if Windows 7 is going to woo to many people. This past summer, I had an evalution copy for Windows 7. I was impress with system resources, but nothing else moved me with this new version. Many Vista user may be happy with the upgrade, but not for folks still using Windows XP :mad: They will have to do a clean install or buy a nice PC...Just buy a MAC :)
 
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