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Apple Continues to Fall Behind
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In other news, my friend's galaxy flip phone recently started developing screen issues after about two years (the screen would basically shut off after being folded, and necessitated a reboot to work again). It's a trend I am seeing around me (one switched back to a Galaxy S?? phone from a flip as well, while another had her galaxy fold phone fail right after returning from an overseas trip). In addition to quite a number of green lines on the OLED displays of older Samsung phones.
When you consider that Apple is actually moving towards making their iPhones more durable (premium materials and build quality, longer software support), I find it ironic that they are now being criticised for not doubling down on a smartphone design that is inherently fragile and costly to fix.
When you consider that Apple is actually moving towards making their iPhones more durable (premium materials and build quality, longer software support), I find it ironic that they are now being criticised for not doubling down on a smartphone design that is inherently fragile and costly to fix.
Why do people insist on entrenching themselves in the sadly outdated Steve Jobs era? Henry Ford was the greatest industrialist of his day, yet as his innovations were absorbed into the manufacturing industry Ford became just another auto company. And today the world is clogged with and polluted by the products of the invention of his assembly line. Let's hope we have better things to look forward to.
when will future apple fans yearn for the good old Cook days?
I want to complain about how Apple has clearly fallen behind on the Dubai chocolate craze. How can it be December 2025 and we still don't have an Apple Dubai chocolate bar? And don't get me started on how far behind Apple is in releasing a Labubu...
I'm good with a foldable that gives a size close to (but probably not AT the size) close to an iPad Mini. I don't know a Phone that turns into a iPad Pro/Air. Kudos to Samsung for trying it though...
There is no doubt that the AVP has tremendous potential, but it has no apps. That makes it useless. A tri-fold phone can use standard phone apps. While it might seems superfluous, it's more useful than an expensive entertainment device.
The iPad wasn't the first tablet.
The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone.
The Mac wasn't the first personal computer.
The iPod wasn't the first portable music player.
Let your competitors try the market and make all the mistakes first then enter it with a mature product and you shall win.
(unless it's mice apparently)
The iPhone wasn't the first smartphone.
The Mac wasn't the first personal computer.
The iPod wasn't the first portable music player.
Let your competitors try the market and make all the mistakes first then enter it with a mature product and you shall win.
(unless it's mice apparently)
if Apple released one, it would be modelled on Dim Tim with Liquid Glass eyes, and retail at $€£299.
Not everyone cares about foldable. I could not care any less about them if I tried. They are so boring to me. We need to spend LESS time on our devices NOT MORE.
Apple is falling behind because they stopped genuine innovation and are now jumping on gimmick trains like the foldable trend.
Folds and Trifold is not an innovation. It’s a gimmick contraption that is DOA. Masses won’t be buying that origami device to use daily. It’s a tech demo for tech enthusiasts. Mark my words. Those things will be just a memory in few years.
Folds and Trifold is not an innovation. It’s a gimmick contraption that is DOA. Masses won’t be buying that origami device to use daily. It’s a tech demo for tech enthusiasts. Mark my words. Those things will be just a memory in few years.
Agreed on the foldable not being innovation. I view it as just standard evolution of what the Nintendo DS had before (and devices before that even). Just obviously screen technology improved and you don't have massive bezels/gaps between the screens etc.
I don't think Steve is the focus of the clip, it's the Gretzky quote about skating to where the puck is going, not where it has been... That is not a Jobsism it's a well regarded idiom/concept in business. Apple has historically been good at it getting out an ahead of the competition, not by being first, but by delivering a refined/elevated experience. I think Apple still tries to do this... we just live in an era that is flooded by a lot of noise/hype so it seems they are doing less.
If foldable devices were tapping some unmet consumer need, they wouldn't still be a niche product. For people that care about "cool," that's there for them. I think the majority of people want a good camera that happens to also be a phone, has a battery you can forget to charge overnight, wake up and still be able to get through your morning with, feels responsive/fast while being an absolute tank when it comes to durability and taking abuse. The iPhone 17 Pro is certainly not the coolest looking device, but I don't think there is better allrounder phone one the market. The innovation Apple puts into engineering new glass and metallurgy is really underrated, who else is doing that?
That said, I do fully believe the iPhone Air is Apple's rehearsal for a fold/flip iPhone that will ultimately be more solid and live up to those everyday expectations of function/durability than any product out now.
As much as I enjoy most Apple products I’ve owned over the years, recent missteps on Apples part have caused me to question the current state of affairs.
I no longer trust that Apple will create a better version of the folding iPhone.
The proof is how woefully behind my iPhone Air is compared to my Samsung Edge. Apple had every opportunity to build a thin iPhone that would compete and be even better, and they failed to do so.
My first hand experience with my Z Fold7 has been amazing and proved how wrong I was to be skeptical before buying this folding phone. After a few months this phone has proven highly useful and quite enjoyable.
That said I remain eager to see what Apple does, and if they build a compelling, well equipped iPhone Fold, I’m a buyer.
Sliding further away of what? No one cares about foldables. They're more nice than slim phones
Not sure where you get your information from. They fought a vicious campaign to KEEP Lightning for as long as possible that they ultimately lost, when the USB-C directive was coming in in Europe (it wasn't Apple that pushed it, it was a bunch of soft-left green groups in the EU parliament). I thought those green groups were 100% correct - instead of having the ususal 12 cables at the charging point in our homes (USB2-A, USB mini-weird-crimp, USB-mini-tiny, Lightning, USB-C, barrel connectors, Magsafe) we could just have one powerful, reliable connector - USB-C. A shift to standardising a powerful, extensible and flexible conenctor like USB-C was a genius move by the EU parliament, and it was absolutely abhorred at Apple. Who ever said that they forced the EU to do this? Please show me where you got this information.
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The difference between that 2007 keynote and 2025, is that apple is skating to where the puck is, not where its going to be. The creative innovation at apple has been bleeding out. I'm not saying they're not innovating, but they've been lacking the vision that's needed. AI has caught them flatfooted and this isn't the first time under Cook's rule that apple is reacting instead of being proactive.
None of these 2 or 3 screen devices are going to be huge sellers. The cost of these devices will stop most people from buying them.
"Apple lead the market in cutting chargers from the box, single-handedly forced the EU to pass a Regulation to mandate USB-C utilization for all devices"
All you people responding to this with a lengthy response are amazing. Perhaps look up and consider the definition of 'sarcasm" before you do so next time...
All you people responding to this with a lengthy response are amazing. Perhaps look up and consider the definition of 'sarcasm" before you do so next time...
Samsung has recently been copying apple in prices and removing features like SD card slot,I've moved to one plus,but for the s11 tablet brought back SD card slot. but too little, too late. good thing about Android, is competition.
<Yawn> Yet another post headlining that the extraordinarily successful [on an ongoing basis] large tech company that every other company in the world envies "Continues to Fall Behind." Seriously? There is no doubt a term for folks posting such silly headlines.