oh yeah, noble 'tech world' Apple was just about to roll out USB-C across all its devices, and then pesky EU jumped on the bandwagon with its mandate, you really have to laugh.
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Apple Continues to Fall Behind
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oh yeah, noble 'tech world' Apple was just about to roll out USB-C across all its devices, and then pesky EU jumped on the bandwagon with its mandate, you really have to laugh.
The design for the USB‑C connector was initially developed in 2012 by Intel, Apple Inc., HP Inc., Microsoft, and the USB Implementers Forum. Apple stuck to lightning for market and profit reasons, they always knew they would go to usb c at some point in time. They were among the first to implement usb c and thunderbolt in their computers. In fact, the whole Apple dongle trope came from them switching to the usb c form factor early on.
The EU mandated USB C, so that -probably- accelerated the switch to usb c. I don't recall Apple viciously fighting the EU on this. They lobbied, they released some statements, but that was it. Nothing 'vicious' I believe 🤷🏻, just protecting their profit margin. They are a for profit company after all. But Apple most assuredly did not push the EU to mandate usb c 😂
I'm in principal happy with having one cable to charge everything... however now all usb c cables have different protocols and power specifications, so 'yay' for single standards 🥳.
The AVP is much more than a headset for putting screens directly in front of your eyes. It's a standalone computer with its own operating system, gesture recognition, etc.
Your phone is a standalone computer. A smartwatch is a standalone computer. The ZX Spectrum ( in 1982 ) was a standalone computer with it’s own OS. Devices have been szalone and have had OSes for a very long time.
I first used „gesture recognition” in 2010 with the Xbox kinect - it was a terrible implentation of gesture recognition, but it was gesture recognition. I first used a „VR headset” in 2013, the oculus Rift dev kit. I first started seeing AR apps coming out on iPhone from the iPhone 4s onwards - so about 2012.
Google Glass was originally released in 2013.
I’m not saying Apple hasn’t pushed these technologies forward, but these concepts are not newer and not more revolutiinary than smartphones, like than smartphones, which was the opinion put forward in the post I was replying to.
AR, gestures and headsets are not new, revolutiinary concepts. Devices with foldable screeny, are new concepts. You can’t say one is „new and revolutionary” but the other is not „new and revolutionary”. That all just emoty marketingspeak.
The Vision Pro is a very good iteration of concepts that has been around for decades. It’s good, but it’s not a new concept, it’s a combination and finessing of a lot of not-very-new concepts.
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You’re confusing „invent” with „design and produce”. I made a pizza today, and it was a very nice pizza, but that doesn’t mean I can claim to have invented pizza.
Sure, Allen's comment that the AVP is truly innovative is somewhat hyperbolic, but I'm addressing the fact that the AVP, even if it's a refinement of mostly pre-existing technology, isn't just a headset for putting screens directly in front of your eyes. There are headsets like that, of course, which connect to a desktop or laptop and just mirror that computer's display, but the AVP with its own OS and other features is more than that, which is significant even if other types of devices with their own OSs and related features have been around for years.
The way I look at it is that both the AVP and folding phones are >somewhat< innovative advancements on prior technology, in the sense that the iPhone was fairly innovative for its time, despite smartphones already being on the market before its release.
However a spoon is not a smartphone, and a properly done folding phone would presumably be both a phone and a tablet.
At the same time it’s both and neither. An average phone that unfolds into a terribly fragile tablet with worse battery life than both. You’d still be 99% better buying an iPhone/Galaxy S alongside an iPad/Tab S.
I think it’s a cool product, really just an R&D flex much like the Vision Pro.
I know the OP felt like Apple were falling behind but if this were an Apple product they’d be ripping them apart for the inevitable crease/s and knocking their QC.
Ah, you miss my qualifier of "a properly done folding phone" and instead specify "An average phone that unfolds into a terribly fragile tablet with worse battery life than both." We agree that a lousy product will fail. However the likelihood of Apple delivering "a terribly fragile tablet" are about zero.
If Google can hit IP68 then Apple's should be indestructable by comparison! There is a reason the iPhone Air was such a toughness statement I suppose: its that classic Tim Cook idea of seeding the market first then watching things grow.
The only thing stopping an iPhone running iPad apps is the software keys inside. Apple could release a foldable tomorrow with iOS on the outside and iPadOS on the inside and it would have millions of compatible apps day-one. I constantly carry my iPhone and iPad. Maybe I'm the target market after all?