Seems to be the Apple Way these days unfortunately. Half baked maybes that never fully materialize, lackluster innovation and lots of iteration.
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Apple Continues to Prepare for Next-Generation CarPlay in iOS 18.2 Beta
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Since the 18.2 beta 1 my 18 Buick encore does not do CarPlay. All I get now is iPod, if I’m lucky
Porsche also switched to Android Automotive with the new Macan EV. Most people don‘t notice it, but it is true. Also route planning/charging stations is most of the time better, since CarPlay doesn‘t have all the data the car and the manufacturer has.
Right?
How about we work on software actually in use and not just the theoretical "take over the whole car" that we're not even sure anyone (or any car makers) really wants
I would love for this to allow the car to use the iPhone's data plan for all data needs. Most car companies are including a limited time of free data, but then charge for a separate car plan. Why can't I just use my phone's data plan that I already pay for?
Since this whole concept requires massive partnerships with car makers, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to escape a subscription of some kind with the car maker
I'm skeptical this is even going to go anywhere.
Apple is notoriously awful to work with in terms of partnerships
They always want everything heavily skewed in their favor
It's one of the reasons they continue to be a "zero" in gaming
Have you looked at Tesla? It’s everyone, not just Apple. It took 10 years for the Cybertruck to come out and the new (fastest car in the world) Roadster is still a fantasy 10 years later.
People whine about Apple not announcing their roadmap, and when they do… well… they get these comments.
I am tired of current UI of Carplay. Can’t they make it better?
Why don’t people reveal how iPhone 16pm is disconnecting and reconnecting intermittently over Bluetooth with CarPlay ? It is an ongoing huge issue
Unfortunately, it is not well done in TVs like Sony Google/Android, so there is no reason to believe that any car integration is going to be any better.
The biggest thing I miss in today's CarPlay is XMRadio integration. With XM playing, messages do not come through CarPlay.
Classic MacRumors comment, Apple is DOOMED! 😂
Yes this is true, from a general user interface perspective it's not too different than the Taycan which uses some ARM based platform with a proprietary OS.
I think the better way to think about this is:
the "OS" is Android Auto
You can interface with the car natively, but the maps and so forth don't 'look' like google maps, but they are probably using those data sources
You can interface with the car via Car play (which is what I use)
You can interface with the car with your android auto phone
The new Macan EV interface while looking similar to the Taycan (yeah there are some apps you can download on the macan too), the use is much better, faster, snappier overall.
I'm not sure what you mean about CarPlay and EV routing though. Apple Maps with EV routing works very well on the Taycan (it's not yet activated on Macan EV but will be soon supposedly). You can choose your charging networks, CarPlay gets state of charge from the car and knows the efficiency data, and will route to charging stops, explains how much to charge at each stop, etc.
The native charging and route planning in the car works similar. Unfortunately not all charging networks have great realtime charge point availability data.
I haven't had this issue with my cars.
I cancelled my in-car XM subscription a long time ago and just stream it via CarPlay app. Of course if you go in places where cell data networks aren't great this isn't ideal... xm satellite will have much better coverage in remote areas.
Unfortunately Porsche is on the list.
Sometimes less is more and apparently Porsche has forgotten that with the looks of that rendering.
Imagine a $150,000+ sports car having the same arcade inspired dash/cabin as a $30,000 VW.
I wish they would do more, but I don’t think there is much more they can. So much is reliant on the manufacture to actually implement features, such as HUD directions or instrument cluster integration.
On the other hand, more could likely be done on vehicles with a larger center display, such as those with the large 12”+ landscape and portrait screens.
We could easily have both if they wanted to give it to us. A CarPlay interface that shows the climate controls/radio/etc, and physical buttons and knobs that control it.
The EU is working to force car manufacturers to start using physical controls again. Hopefully such common-sense legislation happens here too.
Yeah, feeling elite is pretty important. To some…
I don’t like it.
It’s nice to have CarPlay for FaceTime calls and Apple Music, but that's it for me.
I prefer car navigation because it can do more.
Car navigation can use multiple sensors in the car and doesn't rely only on GPS.
So, it knows exactly in which lane I am, and can navigate in tunnels.
My car also offers to slow down before intersections where I should turn - this is great in areas where I've never been.
The most important information is presented on the HUD.
I can easily control the car from the steering wheel and also with buttons, and it's ineffective to control CarPlay with buttons, because it wasn't designed to.
It’s nice to have CarPlay for FaceTime calls and Apple Music, but that's it for me.
I prefer car navigation because it can do more.
Car navigation can use multiple sensors in the car and doesn't rely only on GPS.
So, it knows exactly in which lane I am, and can navigate in tunnels.
My car also offers to slow down before intersections where I should turn - this is great in areas where I've never been.
The most important information is presented on the HUD.
I can easily control the car from the steering wheel and also with buttons, and it's ineffective to control CarPlay with buttons, because it wasn't designed to.
you mean to tell me you're not on the list for a Porsche GT3RS 😂
That’s a very common issue for almost every manufacturer of any device across the planet. It’s called protecting intellectual rights. To suggest it is an "Apple" problem is very naive.
BTW, Apple have some amazing relationships with Microsoft, Samsung, Corning, TMSC… Apple has over 200 parts suppliers for their products. And they have some fantastic partnerships with software companies as well. Apple is very very good at working with companies who they are also in competition with.
So I call BS on an unsubstantiated claim that Apple is notoriously awful to work with in terms of partnerships.