Apple Corps Confirms Beatles Coming To iTunes

[bartelby]

I agree with backsidetail....

If the Beatles started today they'd get nowhere. They just happen to be in the right time. All their stuff is very dated sounding.
Name a band that's changed music and hugely influenced other bands?
I feel Black Sabbath had more of an impact on music than The Beatles.

As for more modern music:
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
Grand Master Flash
Run DMC
Metallica
Iron Maiden

Christ if it wasn't for Eddie Van Halen (or Billy Sheehan, depending on your view) the guitar solo wouldn't be what it is today.

 

[InfernalMachine]

Speaking of irrelevant musical dinosaurs...

Irrelevant in your eyes, or everyone else's??? Once again - you have the internet; do some research about things and feel compelled to grasp the honest truth. As the late Bob Moog once said to me: "Some people have their opinions." Read about him also. Thanks. Also, the Police have influenced more bands than could be understood. Sting was still active last time I checked.

 

[OllyW]

I agree with backsidetail....

I feel Black Sabbath had more of an impact on music than The Beatles.

What was John McEnroe's favourite catchphrase?

 

[GorillaPaws]

what other band has come close to 166 million albums.

Uhh, that's fallacious logic. Just because lots of people buy something doesn't mean it has to be good. Just look at Windows....

 

[bartelby]

What was John McEnroe's favourite catchphrase?

"The ball was in"
What's that got to do with the price of bread?


When The Beatles started there were loads of other bands that sounded like them.
When Sabbath started there was nothing that sounded like them!
They kick started an entirely new genre of music, unlike The Beatles. A genre that then splintered and developed into hundreds of sub genres that spawn new one every few years.

 

[InfernalMachine]

I agree with backsidetail....

If the Beatles started today they'd get nowhere. They just happen to be in the right time. All their stuff is very dated sounding.
Name a band that's changed music and hugely influenced other bands?
I feel Black Sabbath had more of an impact on music than The Beatles.

As for more modern music:
Nine Inch Nails
Nirvana
Grand Master Flash
Run DMC
Metallica
Iron Maiden

Christ if it wasn't for Eddie Van Halen (or Billy Sheehan, depending on your view) the guitar solo wouldn't be what it is today.

Didn't Ozzy used to jump up and down on his bed and ACT like Paul McCartney??? Once again, research on the net. NIN??? Good, but talk to Skinny Puppy, Numan, Ministry and Floyd and others about that... Nirvana. Great, but voice sounds like angry John Lennon and John Fogerty. Sorry. Admitted to liking the Beatles. RAP? Definitely an innovation of sorts and it has turned out so much better and violent and pompous... Metallica??? Cliff Burton loved Rush, rush loved the beatles, and they have now SOLD OUT. Next - Iron Maiden. Actually a great band, but what are they doing anymore??? Also, Eddie Van Halen started tapping after Steve Hackett from Genesis. Study this well. And Sheehan??? Entwhistle, Squire and Lee need study. Thanks. Does anyone here know anything about music history??????

 

[bartelby]

Didn't Ozzy used to jump up and down on his bed and ACT like Paul McCartney??? Once again, research on the net. NIN??? Good, but talk to Skinny Puppy, Numan, Ministry and Floyd and others about that... Nirvana. Great, but voice sounds like angry John Lennon and John Fogerty. Sorry. Admitted to liking the Beatles. RAP? Definitely an innovation of sorts and it has turned out so much better and violent and pompous... Metallica??? Cliff Burton loved Rush, rush loved the beatles, and they have now SOLD OUT. Next - Iron Maiden. Actually a great band, but what are they doing anymore??? Also, Eddie Van Halen started tapping after Steve Hackett from Genesis. Study this well. And Sheehan??? Entwhistle, Squire and Lee need study. Thanks. Does anyone here know anything about music history??????

Did Ozzy really ACT like PM?
Sources please.

Ok on Skinny Puppy, but then talk about Throbbing Gristle and Einsturzende Neubauten.
I'm not talking about Kurt sounding like and angry John Lennon. The human voice can only do so much!

Did Cliff love The Beatles?

Iron Maiden are still going!

Steve Hackett started two handed tapping?
I wasn't aware The Ox ever did two handed tapping on the bass.


But you're right, The Beatles invented music!

 

[OllyW]

"The ball was in"
What's that got to do with the price of bread?

When The Beatles started there were loads of other bands that sounded like them.
When Sabbath started there was nothing that sounded like them!
They kick started an entirely new genre of music, unlike The Beatles. A genre that then splintered and developed into hundreds of sub genres that spawn new one every few years.

I'm a massive fan of early Sabbath, so you don't have to explain their music to me. Sorry, I just don't think they were that influential to "music" in general, most people couldn't even name a Sabbath record.

The reason that there were loads of bands sounding like the Beatles was because they all copied the Beatles and if the Beatles didn't have an impact how come they were Ozzy Osbourne's biggest influence?

From Ozzie Interview

One thing about the Beatles: Even now, they're timeless records. You can put Sgt. Pepper on, "A Day in the Life", it's ****in' brilliant. It takes you on a journey. "Strawberry Fields Forever" is just ****ing magic. To this day, I've spent hours trying to figure out how they got those sounds and how they got this to intertwine with that, and I can't work it out. I went to see McCartney last year at The LA Forum - I never got to see the Beatles, though; tickets were always sold out like 10 minutes after going on sale - and he was playing Beatles classics, and I was just melting in the audience.

The Beatles had such an effect on my whole life, my whole structure, my whole being. My room was littered with Beatle stuff; I'd go 20 miles to get a poster of the Beatles.

One thing I learned is that if you've got a good melody, you've got a good song. There are so many bands out there that try to impress other bands with their musical ability, which I respect, but the Beatles had only three chords - but they were such top-line melodies. I mean, Lennon and McCartney were just, for me, the perfect combination. They were sweet and sour. How can you ****ing top the Beatles?

To answer your first question, it's "You cannot be serious!" but you knew that anyway

 

[Swift]

Wait until the news comes out

This is only FOX News. That's a step below the Macalope.

 

[bartelby]

I'm a massive fan of early Sabbath, so you don't have to explain their music to me. Sorry, I just don't think they were that influential to "music" in general, most people couldn't even name a Sabbath record.

The reason that there were loads of bands sounding like the Beatles was because they all copied the Beatles and if the Beatles didn't have an impact how come they were Ozzy Osbourne's biggest influence?

From Ozzie Interview


To answer your first question, it's "You cannot be serious!" but you knew that anyway

Ozzy drops in my estimations.

 

[InfernalMachine]

Ozzy drops in my estimations.

Metalheads NEVER get it. Long Live The Beatles! Hey, I like metal too! I am just more well-rounded. Sorry. IM

 

[Evangelion]

What is this crap? "My favourite band is better than your favourite band!". Are we in fifth grade or something?

what other band has come close to 166 million albums.

ABBA: 370 million sold albums. And I wonder how many albums the likes of Beethoven, Mozart and so forth have sold? And I bet those two have influenced music A LOT more than Beatles has. And the influence of ABBA is downright huge as well.

Note: I'm not saying that The Beatles are crap, far from it. What I AM saying is that they are not the be-all end-all band that triumphs over everyone else.

 

[shikimo]

Good. Exclusive deals suck.

Right on, Burnsville Brave: what ever happened to choice and fair competition?

The attitude of some of the posters here makes me feel like NOT using an apple computer. I have used apples for years, not just since the "intel" jump... I am starting to believe that we are seeing some of these "crossover" users now and I sense a 12-16 year old wintel mentality towards things. Since so many apple users are so "artistic" how do so many here have such a poor attitude towards the Beatles - considered to be the harbingers of so many of the things we take for granted now in the musical arts. The Beatles as a band were very similar to apple as a computer maker. Do you not see that??? Both were pioneers, full of quality and a vision towards the future. There are very few musicians that would discount the Beatles so easily. Do a little research about the influence the Beatles had on people, the arts and recording technology - and then come back feeling a LITTLE bit less happy about your own influential abilities(and artistic offerings...) Beck and Radiohead (and other "artsy" people) seem a little less strange than once perceived after you really LISTEN to the beatles. Thank You. I feel slightly better now.

Aw c'mon...lots and lots of people, including musicians, find the Beatles largely inartistic, tired and often uncreative. Sure John Lennon was the real thing, and there are great Beatles songs, but they were still the first and biggest modern pop stars, a species that music would have been better off without.

And in any case what does this have to do with what sort of computer you want to use?? Do you value the opinions of MR posters that much??

Uhh, that's fallacious logic. Just because lots of people buy something doesn't mean it has to be good. Just look at Windows....

And there it is...the final word on popularity vs quality. While some bands/products/services are great DESPITE mass popularity, don't try and deny that many, many stupid Beatles songs were just popular because they were the Beatles.

 

[ppnkg]

**** the beatles
they were in the right place at the right time
over rated and over hyped.

Really? Oh, I see...perhaps you have arrived at the wrong place at the wrong time. Please tell us, how is life on Mars?

 

[MrSmith]

Some six years after the Beatles split up the Sex Pistols arrived. They (and the Punk movement and the aftermath) really sorted music out. Remind me, what did the Beatles do for music?

 

[iMeowbot]

Does anyone actually buy Beatles crap any more?

For 2006, they were still in the SoundScan top 10 artists, at no. 5. That's still pretty significant for a group that split up before most of the world's current residents were born.

 

[shikimo]

Some six years after the Beatles split up the Sex Pistols arrived. They (and the Punk movement and the aftermath) really sorted music out. Remind me, what did the Beatles do for music?

London calling to the faraway towns
Now war is declared - and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
London calling, now don't look to us
Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust

Yeah...although I guess you could argue that without Beatlemania the punks would've had less to be angry about .

For 2006, they were still in the SoundScan top 10 artists, at no. 5. That's still pretty significant for a group that split up before most of the world's current residents were born.

Thanks for the facts. I like facts. And I know you were just responding to a question, fair enough, but...so what? As GorillaPaw pointed out, what connection between quantity and quality?

 

[redAPPLE]

Why the heck does it need to be exclusive?

because we are smug.

 

[Leoff]

Beatle haters vs. Beatle lovers

I'm seeing a lot of "pure love" vs. "pure hatred" at the concept of the Beatles releasing it's music in iTunes, and it's definitely taken on a distinct "Mac vs. PC" tone. Logic is thrown out the window and it eventually just turns to us vs. them. If you look at practical ideas like good business practices and making money, things start to make sense.

It IS possible to absolutely hate something, yet realize that it is important and has it's place. A lot of the Beatle "haters" in this place don't seem to quite understand that.

For instance, I absolutely LOATHE Elvis and the Rolling Stones. Aside from maybe one or two songs out of their entire collections, I simply hate them and their music. BUT, I do understand that their place in music history is large, their contributions great.

It would be ignorant to think that Apple doesn't consistantly try to make great strides in it's aquisitions in the Music Store, and just as ignorant the Beatles music catalogue as insignificant. The Beatles catalogue would be a huge grab for anyone if even limited to only a week of exclusivity.

Let's put it this way: Even if you hate the Beatles with a firey passion, would you pass on the chance to get their music in your on-line store first?

Consequently, there is little to link the Beatles to Apple. Besides the name battle as related to music distribution, the two are simple business partners. Steve Jobs does not have private meetings with Paul McCartney, and Ringo Star is not playing on a customized "Yellow Submarine" iMac. It's tons of guys in business suits, most of which who have never met except by phone or e-mail, discussing how to get the most for their money in contract negotiations.

To me it would make sense for the Beatles to release exclusively on iTunes for a time, then open it up to other stores. But I also realize that in the weird world of business, with contracts and sales reps and figures and this and that, that might not be the best move for them. I just don't know.


And for the few of you who are wondering who in the hell would buy old crap like the Beatles? The same could be asked about classical music, yet people still buy the same orchestraitions again and again. They have done so and they'll continue to do so for decades, hell, centuries to come.


Myself? I'm just glad they've got Nina Simone in the iTunes store. Her and Sam Phillips, that's all that really matters.

 

[redAPPLE]

I can picture it now. Submarine yellow with a purple click wheel...

a.k.a. the L.A. Lakers iPod?

I can picture it now. Submarine yellow with a purple click wheel...

Elvis....enough said.

king elvis ain't a band. or do you consider fat boy slim a band?

 

[bartelby]

Metalheads NEVER get it. Long Live The Beatles! Hey, I like metal too! I am just more well-rounded. Sorry. IM

I'm not a metalhead, I have a considerably diverse taste in music.
I just don't think The Beatles are as great as other people think they are.

 

[iMeowbot]

Thanks for the facts. I like facts. And I know you were just responding to a question, fair enough, but...so what? As GorillaPaw pointed out, what connection between quantity and quality?

Frankly, that's irrelevant. Unpopular music, being unpopular, doesn't sell. Popular music, being popular, does sell. The popular stuff will attract many more customers to Apple. The unpopular stuff won't attract many.

 

[davidnapier]

Who Cares???????!!!!

I'm sorry. But who really cares about this? Two big companies are going to make mega bucks! So what? Good on them! If you REALLY love the Beatles - buy their darn CDs!

I just wish wish Apple would care as much about their Pro line as they do this.
I have thousands of dollars of software tied up in OSX (and I love it!) yet all I'm reading is about some freaking name scuffle and whether a band that broke up decades ago will be on iTunes when you can get them on CD at Wal-Mart! What has happened the Apple/Mac Universe??????

 

[iChan]

First, I thought Michael Jackson or Sony or someone else owned the rights to the Beatles catalog...

Second, if you like the Beatles, just buy the CD, get your high quality non-DRM version for the same price, and rip it into whatever format you like.

It astounds me why people spend so much time fretting over iTunes music store announcements - paying 99 cents for a low-fi version of a song is a total rip.

MJ own the rights to the music and lyrics.

Apple Corp own the rights to the recordings.

 

[MrSmith]

I don't know, maybe we're talking cross-purposes. There's no doubt the Beatles were popular, had an immense impact on most of the world's teenagers, and are still heard everywhere. But if anyone's suggesting that in the evolution from tribal drums to today's music the Beatles played an important, revolutionary role I would have to disagree strongly. Any part they played was no more important than, say, Ricky Nelson or Roy Orbison's part.