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In response to confusion surrounding the iPad promotion video, Apple has replaced the video with a more accurate version.

The iPad promo video originally had mocked up scenes showing the iPad browsing the New York Times complete with visible Adobe Flash content. The finding generated some hope and speculation that Apple might incorporate Flash in the future. In response to the confusion, Apple has replaced the video now showing the broken Flash plug-in icon that would show up in real world use.

Apple's decision not to incorporate Flash into their iPhone OS has been a controversial one, but a stand they've remained consistent with over time.

Article Link: Apple Corrects iPad Promo Video to Show No Flash Capability
 
LOL. Why didn't Apple just choose a different popular page that doesn't use Flash, and get by without the "brick" at all?

Oh wait, there aren't many popular pages without Flash.
 
Here we go again on the flash debate...

It was actually really funny when Steve was navigating the NYT. He went down to tech news (everything was Apple related) and then scrolled up to a blocked flash photo and just let it sit there for 5 seconds and said, "see what's happening today."

Steve has a great sense of humor.
 
Is the brick a flash ad or actual content that is part of that website?

It makes no sense to use flash for static content like pictures etc..
 
That's the deal breaker for me. My wife wants one to surf while we're watching TV and I'm working. If it doesn't support flash, then Apple is making a horrible mistake. How could something be "the best web surfing experience" when it doesn't support all major web technologies?
 
In what way is HTML 5 more standard than Flash? Explain your answer carefully.
 
Off topic, but I want to flash you all!

Seriously though, is there betting in Vegas as to whether Apple will cave? I mean, I wouldn't put any money on it but I'm sure someone would. :rolleyes:
 
I hate Flash and I accept that Flash is too resource intensive and buggy for a device like the iPhone but there's absolutely no excuse for it not being on a tablet which is, ostensibly, more of a replacement for a laptop than a phone.

So, I call bull@#$% on this one. Apple needs to get Flash working on the iPad immediately whether they like it or not. And I know all about John Gruber's article and the technical reasons for excluding Flash, and I think he's accurate with that, but his opinion and geek talk mean f@#$-all to the average consumer--the people this is going to be aimed at. They're going to expect Flash no matter how much it sucks.
 
Wow, what an epic fail. Best browsing experience, except, uhh, half of the internet doesn't work properly. Way to go, Apple! Glad I told my friends to sell their stock!
 
Will Adobe just release Flash in the Cydia app store already?

I know Apple is pushing HTML5 (which is the future) but I need me some hulu.
 
Steve Jobs can be stubborn about not implementing flash, but I (and probably many others as well) can be just as stubborn in refusing to buy the iPad unless it does have flash support. As an above post said, it is somewhat understandable on the iPhone (and not really even there) but totally inexcusable on the iPad. I had a friend just this week tell me that he would not buy the iPad w/o flash and that when a decent smartphone comes out that does have it he will ditch his iPhone (I never thought I would here him say that).
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7D11 Safari/528.16)

Pretty ballsy to show the missing plugin there. I like it. Bye bye flash.
 
Sadly HTML5 is more broken than Flash ... I can't run some HTML5 video in Firefox because it doesn't support the same format as Chrome and Safari .. and no one with IE can view HTML5 video without installing a chrome frame.. which the average users won't know to do...

Flash video can be seen on ALL devices even Android, Palm Pre, Desktop, blackberry .... well ALL minus the iPad. smh.
 
That's the deal breaker for me. My wife wants one to surf while we're watching TV and I'm working. If it doesn't support flash, then Apple is making a horrible mistake. How could something be "the best web surfing experience" when it doesn't support all major web technologies?

Ok, but tell me, how is it supposed to handle mouse over? Mouse down, mouse up... You know, a lot of those video players don't show controls until you mouse over, but how will the iPad know the difference between a mouse over and a click?

Even mouse position? Your fingers and your wife's fingers are not 1px by 1px—they fill a much larger area. Apple uses some fancy algorithms to determine what link you are trying to press—since Flash goes based on a pure pixel-by-pixel evaluation, that won't work.

Flash, even if it was on iPad, would 90% of the time be useless. Especially for any games, which would certainly need dragging, mousing over, etc.

The only Flash things which _don't_ have this problems are ads. Are Flash ads the part of the web that you are missing?
 
That's the deal breaker for me. My wife wants one to surf while we're watching TV and I'm working. If it doesn't support flash, then Apple is making a horrible mistake. How could something be "the best web surfing experience" when it doesn't support all major web technologies?
Exactly.
 
Are there really people who saw the original promo video that thought that meant the iPad would support Flash? Really?
 
Are there really people who saw the original promo video that thought that meant the iPad would support Flash? Really?

Obviously Apple thought they could trick some people... until the press got wind of it.
 
Ugh I'm so sick of the anti-Apple zealots and their ignorance. For calling themselves nerds and geeks they sure aren't very smart. And most obviously haven't used flash on anything other than a notebook or desktop.

Check out how well hulu runs on a pretty power netbook. Pretty crappy, and for some reason they think it will run well on a tablet and even a phone? Morons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOdEzofmT40
 
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