Exactly. I actually don't think I've read any articles concerning this. Not to imply I've read every article about Flash on iPhone, but you pretty much need a cursor for most of that to work. Sounds like a pain in the ass to me.
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Apple Corrects iPad Promo Video to Show No Flash Capability
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Exactly. I actually don't think I've read any articles concerning this. Not to imply I've read every article about Flash on iPhone, but you pretty much need a cursor for most of that to work. Sounds like a pain in the ass to me.
So while reading all the major news sites (NYT, WSJ, etc.) about the new iPad, each one had video interviews with pundits talking about it. Just the thing I would use the iPad for. Only problem is that each and every video interview was flash!! I never realized how many sites use flash for the video content till I checked the other day. It's really going to be a problem for the iPad, I expect a lot of returns when people see what they are missing as they try to use it as the media device it's being sold as.
Major or not, flash is NOT a Open standard technology. It is based upon a closed source base and it takes a client and API to support it.
I wish people would move away from flash. It's retarded to see an entire website written with it because anyone on a mobile device has to spend time downloading and rendering (assuming your phone even supports it) and the whole time the mobile user could have been surfing content and finding the information they were looking for.
99% of flash sites hold "STATIC" content that should not be done with Flash.
I wish people would move away from flash. It's retarded to see an entire website written with it because anyone on a mobile device has to spend time downloading and rendering (assuming your phone even supports it) and the whole time the mobile user could have been surfing content and finding the information they were looking for.
99% of flash sites hold "STATIC" content that should not be done with Flash.
Give owners a choice.
At first I thought people were over-reacting to the lack of flash. Flash ads of course are tacky, hog bandwidth and drain batteries. Now, I think it's a mistake for Apple to not support Flash with the iPad. I also think that they'll cave if sales are slow. Apple could default with Flash turned off so that they can advertise the ten hour battery but then give owners the ability to turn it back on through a preference panel.
At first I thought people were over-reacting to the lack of flash. Flash ads of course are tacky, hog bandwidth and drain batteries. Now, I think it's a mistake for Apple to not support Flash with the iPad. I also think that they'll cave if sales are slow. Apple could default with Flash turned off so that they can advertise the ten hour battery but then give owners the ability to turn it back on through a preference panel.
Apple has not actually said they didn't want to support Flash or even that it is a "big bag of hurt" as Apple did with Blu-Ray. Apple said the current variant of Flash is a resource hog and that they have been working with Adobe to deal with that.
ARM is CPU lite. TOS3.2+ is MOS10.x lite. Resource utilization is perhaps the driving force of the iPod/iPad platform. So when Adobe comes out with Flash for ARM for Android and Palm and Touch OS, at least a major improvement will be neigh.
A day will come, and I predict it will be very near April Fool's Day, that Flash for ARM and Safari magically arrives and this whole noise evaporates. But it will still make your device sluggish when in use, because say what you will, Flash is a resource hog.
We shall then have Touch Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, and (gag) Flash Author.
A blue Lego in an Apple demo?! That screams "coming soon" and "dudes, get off your settopbox and finish ARM Flash."
Rocketman
ARM is CPU lite. TOS3.2+ is MOS10.x lite. Resource utilization is perhaps the driving force of the iPod/iPad platform. So when Adobe comes out with Flash for ARM for Android and Palm and Touch OS, at least a major improvement will be neigh.
A day will come, and I predict it will be very near April Fool's Day, that Flash for ARM and Safari magically arrives and this whole noise evaporates. But it will still make your device sluggish when in use, because say what you will, Flash is a resource hog.
We shall then have Touch Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, and (gag) Flash Author.
A blue Lego in an Apple demo?! That screams "coming soon" and "dudes, get off your settopbox and finish ARM Flash."
Rocketman
I am over it. The iPad is such a disaster on so many levels. I'm sure some people wil buy it, but it could have been so much more.
And in the same video, Ive states, "... i don't have to change myself to fit the product..." and Schiller claims this is "...the best web surfing experience..." I am not a loyalist of Flash, but are these statements not quite true with iPad's significant display limitation? I am losing some respect to Apple.
What is stopping you from implementing your own HTML/CSS client? What is stopping you from implementing your own Flash client?
Flash 10.1 supports multitouch and is now running on Andriod, Blackberry, Palm Pre and other mobile devices.
You can do Pinch, swipe, double tap, ect with Multitouch Flash... so Apple has no excuse. AND flash 10.1 was optimized for mobile performance.
Yeah, but 99% of pages that use Flash use them for ads. No, thanks.
(Games excluded. And included simultaneously, I suppose. YouTube, of coruse, doesn't count.)
exactly.. the iPad is NOT better than a Macbook for surfing (like steve said) if it doesn't have flash..
And hopefully we'll have the option to turn it off entirely, in Settings. Can't wait for the flood of complaints on how horrible battery life and browser performance are with Flash on the iPad...LOL, what did you expect?
Flash will be turned off on my iPad, permanently.
People keep saying Flash isn't open and it's a closed Technology ... UMMMM HELLO .. we're talking about Apple here. The most closed technology in the world. You even have to pay freaking $100 just to get the SDK... and you can't even install whatever plugins you want on their mobile devices. THAT'S CLOSED also, but I don't see those people complaining about that!
Why do you have to schill for the iPad and make excuses for Apple in every thread?
This is a DISCUSSION forum. Some people are dissapointed. Get over it. Buy one. Scheesch.
It is always going to be a debate on the Flash No-Flash issue.
I don't think Apple will ever have any plans on adding Flash to the device. If that is a deal breaker for you then don't buy it.
I myself don't mind it not having flash. Flash would not work well on a multi-touch surface. How would you do a mouse over? Flash would have to be re-written to work with a touch surface device such as the iPad. There is no cursor on screen like other tablets offer. But the fact is other tablets will not offer no where near as an accurate touch screen than the iPad. I can see sites starting to alter sites so users can use them on the iPad. In my opinion and my opinion alone, I feel Apple is going to sell a ton of iPads. I am buying one myself. Device looks awesome. Yes Flash missing is a bummer for some sites. It would be awesome to be able to use it for my kids to play around with on sites like Disney. But like I said maybe sites like Disney will make iPad versions of their sites. Tons of sites made iPhone versions of their site to reach iPhone users. Why would the iPad be any different?
I don't think Apple will ever have any plans on adding Flash to the device. If that is a deal breaker for you then don't buy it.
I myself don't mind it not having flash. Flash would not work well on a multi-touch surface. How would you do a mouse over? Flash would have to be re-written to work with a touch surface device such as the iPad. There is no cursor on screen like other tablets offer. But the fact is other tablets will not offer no where near as an accurate touch screen than the iPad. I can see sites starting to alter sites so users can use them on the iPad. In my opinion and my opinion alone, I feel Apple is going to sell a ton of iPads. I am buying one myself. Device looks awesome. Yes Flash missing is a bummer for some sites. It would be awesome to be able to use it for my kids to play around with on sites like Disney. But like I said maybe sites like Disney will make iPad versions of their sites. Tons of sites made iPhone versions of their site to reach iPhone users. Why would the iPad be any different?
Don't care if the thing has Flash or not, but Apple need to make sure they don't lie in their adverts, so I'm glad they've corrected this.
I'm sick of this type of crap.
Your post has nothing to do with the topic.
I have reported you but I'm quit sure the mods don't care because the more click this place gets the more money they make.
You wanna talk about CLOSED mindset look at MR.
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has generic flash ever run on any touch device?
I don't know--if you have windows based smartphone--it will show flashlite but not flash content--yes? It seems like the whole flash/touch ui issue should have come up already--regardless of its future on the ipad
I don't know--if you have windows based smartphone--it will show flashlite but not flash content--yes? It seems like the whole flash/touch ui issue should have come up already--regardless of its future on the ipad
Flash Blows
Flash was a stupid solution (requiring a client-side plug-in instead of instituting the capabilities within HTML). Eventually, HTML5 will correct this mistake. Just because Flash (the memory/processor hog that it is) is wide-spread, doesn't mean it's cool or the way to go. Adobe would wise to allow Flash to export/generate HTML5 files. 'Nuff said... on with your drivel.
Flash was a stupid solution (requiring a client-side plug-in instead of instituting the capabilities within HTML). Eventually, HTML5 will correct this mistake. Just because Flash (the memory/processor hog that it is) is wide-spread, doesn't mean it's cool or the way to go. Adobe would wise to allow Flash to export/generate HTML5 files. 'Nuff said... on with your drivel.
*shrugs* I feel what he/she wrote absolutely talks about the topic at hand. Someone had previously referred to Flash as being "Closed," this was his/her argument against.
Additionally, the poster did not personally insult or attack a user either. So again, I don't see what is in there to report? You may not agree with the poster and can ignore him/her, but what's there to report?
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Flash on the iPad should work like this:
You come to a page that has flash content. Either your preferred setting is to have flash play automatically, and it plays, or your preferred setting is to play on demand. In that case, you see an icon that indicates embedded flash content. Tap it, and it loads and plays.
Just as elsewhere in iPhone OS, your "mouse over" means touching and rolling or sliding your fingertip over items, and releasing it triggers the click.
Easy. Adobe just has to clean it up so people don't hate it, and Apple has to want to play nice with Adobe.
You come to a page that has flash content. Either your preferred setting is to have flash play automatically, and it plays, or your preferred setting is to play on demand. In that case, you see an icon that indicates embedded flash content. Tap it, and it loads and plays.
Just as elsewhere in iPhone OS, your "mouse over" means touching and rolling or sliding your fingertip over items, and releasing it triggers the click.
Easy. Adobe just has to clean it up so people don't hate it, and Apple has to want to play nice with Adobe.
