Apple cost 200% more than Dell in Hardware

[minik]

As a long time Mac user, I still believe that the MacBook Pro is very expensive. The rest of the product line is okay.

 

[McGiord]

A Hyundai cost less than a .... same song and dance...
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Lexus ES history

 

[Eidorian]

I have a question.

How many people would still complain if the MacBook had an ATI HD 3450 or a nVidia 8400M/9300M G instead of Intel graphics?

How many people would sacrifice a clock speed multiplier to have a dedicated video card?

 

[kabunaru]

How many people would still complain if the MacBook had an ATI HD 3450 or a nVidia 8400M/9300M G instead of Intel graphics?

I guess lots but those video cards you mentioned would be good enough for me. Many people dream of having a 8800 card in a MacBook at least. 🙄

It's not the dedicated graphics on MacBook issue that's annoying me. It's people comparing Macs (especially Intel Macs) to PCs hardware and calling Macs "overpriced PCs" that's annoying me.

How many people would sacrifice a clock speed multiplier to have a dedicated video card?

I would.

 

[stainlessliquid]

With regard to the comparison of the Macbook pro to the XPS M1530...
I just finished reading an article in Maximum PC (yes a PC mag) that compared these two laptops. Yes, the hardware is practically identical, but the Mac outperformed the Dell machine in most benchmarks. And that was with both Notebooks running Vista. They gave the Macbook the higher rating and "Best in Class" status in the "Professional Notebook" category. The $500 price difference didn't seem to matter in light of the performance advantage.
Even with similar hardware, Apple engineering does seem to make a difference.
Granted Apple didn't fare as well in the "Mainstream" or the "Ultraportable" categories, 😱 but the point is you can't just compare hardware. Performance counts as well.
Article.

All of their problems could have been fixed by formatting and installing a retail copy of windows (or just tell Dell not to install bloatware, which apparently they didnt). But you cant fix the LCD, and according to them the Dell's LCD blows away the MBP's. So to me it sure seems like the Dell is a lot better than the MBP by a fairly significant margin, LCD's are extremely vital parts to a laptop.

 

[MacFanatic08]

Question: Give me an eight year old Dell notebook, and compare it to an eight year old Mac notebook. The Pismo G3 is the SAME thickness as my dad's BRAND NEW Dell laptop - it took dell eight years to finally get to be that thin. And also, can the eight year old Dell notebook take a gig of RAM, no. You pay more for other accessories for apple b/c not necessarily b/c they're better (they're the same thing), you pay it for one: Apple is not as big of a company as Dell, two: They're into making money... (Duh)

 

[Quillz]

and every dell computer ive had has literally fallen apart, whats your point?

You must have had some extremely bad luck, then, because three of the five computers in my house right now are all Dells. One from 2004, and two from 2006. They all work fine, and frankly, I find the build quality great. I just recently got rid of a 2001 Dell that also worked fine, it was simply too old to continue to hang on to.

 

[cosmokanga2]

Well, I think the overall consensus on the article is that though Macs are more, they are WAY better than any comparable or not PC. After all, I don't think many people are still working everyday on a 4-6 old PC smoothly, where as many of the Macs are still going strong.

 

[heatmiser]

Question: Give me an eight year old Dell notebook, and compare it to an eight year old Mac notebook. The Pismo G3 is the SAME thickness as my dad's BRAND NEW Dell laptop - it took dell eight years to finally get to be that thin.

This only works under the assumption that Dell has been trying to design thin laptops for eight years. Not a good assumption, because it's about as reasonable as stating it took Apple ten years to transition from PowerPC processors to Intel processors. We wouldn't make that statement because we know that just because Apple didn't choose to do something didn't mean they were incapable of doing so. So we should do better than float that line of thought when it comes to Dell.

Well, I think the overall consensus on the article is that though Macs are more, they are WAY better than any comparable or not PC. After all, I don't think many people are still working everyday on a 4-6 old PC smoothly, where as many of the Macs are still going strong.

If that's the consensus of the article, I (and many in this thread) will easily disagree with it. Personally, I've found PC hardware to be equally or more (in some cases, much more) reliable than Apple hardware. It really comes down to what one wishes to use. If one does a bit of searching, one could easily find lots of old PCs still in active use.

Forums aside, the majority of people who use computers don't upgrade nearly as often as tech-geeks do. In fact, there are tons of old Thinkpads still in use, with a fan club comparable to that of vintage Mac users. It really isn't a competition, and it would be great if we didn't feel the need to bash PCs simply because we inhabit a Mac forum.