Apple Could Be Forced to Follow New Digital Competition Rules or Face Fines, Under UK Proposal

Frustratedperson said:
And that’s when I will leave the Apple ecosystem and just spend less on Android. 99% off the reason that I go with Apple is for their view on privacy and malware etc. If it’s opened up then there are just as well made phones from the likes of Samsung, Google etc.
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Not sure I get your point, you dont have to buy from other stores just the Apple one, peace and security restored, easy

Scottie
 
What advantage would there be to me, a tiny little user, of buying apps elsewhere than Apple's appstore?

There are two possibilities. First, apps which Apple do not allow might become available. Second, apps might be less expensive.

Yes - I could perhaps get Fakespot from another place. But it would require the developer to make it available.

Yes - but I really cannot imagine the bigger, more important apps ending up less expensive elsewhere. I suppose that Microsoft might see some reason to offer a small discount if you purchase Office though their appstore. And the smaller apps simply wouldn't be singificantly cheaper - 90 pence instead of 99 pence?

I can certainly see moral, ethical and even possible financial arguments for third party app stores. I just cannot see it making much, if any, difference to me. Nor can I see me trusting most possible sources any better than, not even near equal to, Apple's appstore.
 
Steve Adams said:
Their lies on privacy. You are taking the bait.
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But why would Tim lie about privacy? I mean, apart from the hundreds of millions of dollars he would lose in bonuses?

Apple’s lies about security are approaching the level of cigarette companies advertising their products as healthy.

www.theguardian.com

How does Apple technology hold up against NSO spyware?

The iPhone maker says it is keeping pace with malware, but the Pegasus project paints a worrying picture
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“Apple’s self-assured hubris is just unparalleled,” said Patrick Wardle, a former NSA employee and founder of the Mac security developer Objective-See. “They basically believe that their way is the best way. And to be fair … the iPhone has had incredible success. But you talk to any external security researcher, they’re probably not going to have a lot of great things to say about Apple. Whereas if you talk to security researchers in dealing with, say, Microsoft, they’ve said: ‘We’re gonna put our ego aside, and ultimately realise that the security researchers are reporting vulnerabilities that at the end of the day are benefiting our users, because we’re able to patch them.’ I don’t think Apple has that same mindset.”
 
Pezimak said:
Because you can buy the majority of games from hundreds of different places, both physical disks and digital download codes. And if people then argue about they still take a cut, you have the huge second hand market where the console owners don't get a penny from.
That's probably why they will be exempt because alternative markets to purchase the software already exist and are very well established.
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You can’t release software for consoles without the console makers certification regardless of what format it’s sold in
 
scottie2345 said:
Not sure I get your point, you dont have to buy from other stores just the Apple one, peace and security restored, easy

Scottie
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Not if major sup develops or companies like Facebook decide you can only get their apps from their own stores or website. The iOS App Store can easily become the desert the Mac App Store is today
 
Roadster Lewis said:
I like Apple kit precisely because it is locked down - I like to think I am savvy enough not to install compromised software on my devices, but not so sure about less technically minded users.

There is a choice - if you want freedom to side load etc, buy an Android
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Some employers might chose apps not available on the App Store.
 
meh. Whenever government decides to take a stand on something these days I wonder what they really want. At least with companies I know straight up they just want my money.

Most apps today are garbage. The others are web based with an app shell. Having just looked at the apps I have on my phone and iPad over half are web apps.

I am more interested in how my office apps (365, etc...) and writing apps integrate and how my cloud services allow me to share/sync.

Everything thinks their app is the next Angry Birds.
 
Unless you're a highly targeted individual for which some regime wants to deploy very expensive malware by NSO, yeah you're basically very safe on iOS. Much safer than on Android at least, where users can easily become a victim of malware such as FluBot through social engineering.
 
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Remy149 said:
The iOS App Store can easily become the desert the Mac App Store is today
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Not really comparable: the iOS App Store has always been the only way to install third party Apps on the iPhone/iPad and those Apps have always been rigorously sandboxed. It has a lot of momentum, and a huge catalogue, so any new contenders will face a high bar.

The Mac App Store was a late bolt-on, starting from scratch on a platform which already had a thriving industry supplying software on disc, via direct-from-the-publisher downloads or third-party app stores. Also, the sandboxing on the Mac App Store broke lots of existing apps.

The two problems I see with the App Store (c.f. other app stores) are (a) Apple's ability to act as judge jury and executioner when it comes to rejecting Apps, with the potential for allowing them to block anything they see as "competition" and (b) the inability to keep usable backups of apps (...that don't turn into pumpkins if you change the Apple ID or want to install them on a new device after they've been withdrawn from the store). That said, (b) has to be taken in the context of reality where many independently-obtained apps require product activation that relies on the companies servers being up and running, and modern concerns about security mean that the days of running 10-year-old software may be coming to an end...

(a) is maybe where some legislation requiring transparency about rejections could help.

Let's just hope that the Powers That Be don't get distracted by the whole "Fortnite" thing - which seems to me about dodging Apple's commission by giving away your App for free, then using your own in-app-purchase scheme to make money hand over fist.

Or to put it another way "Hi, Mr Walmart - can I call you Wally? It's King Camp Gillette here - how'd you like to be the exclusive distributor of my free razors? What's that Wally? Blades? No, no, I'll sell the blades directly. <click> Wally? Wally?"
 
Shirasaki said:
Wonderful.
Will Apple permanently exit UK market? Or any market that introduces those new laws, eventually crawling back to its home market (USA)? Or will apple bulge in and comply?
I’m more than happy to see how the situation develops.
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They will have to fly to some iPlanet, and create a new trapped civilization there with own iLaws.
I'm sure enough fanboys would follow.

Anyway, exiting the UK market is no option, they will face antitrust and new laws around the globe, even in the U.S.
It's about time to control these tech companies.

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I think it could be solved partially by allowing third party payment integration. I don’t think most people will use them in subscription.
 
sanook997 said:
Better they stop selling their products directly in the UK, those of us that choose to stay in the walled garden, can buy from outside the UK. Getting a phone would be easy.
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Oh yeah, because no recent political changes in the country made such a thing more costly and complicated…
 
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