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I wish they'd stop going on about this crap and start pushing for open standards and APIs on iCloud so we can actually get stuff in and out easily. You can tell it's not the end users who are lobbying for this stuff because it's not about interoperability or compatibility at all, it's about avoiding the 30% cut. That's why the app store is under attack, no other reason. Epic/EU/CMA backers and the like are all the same: it's about the cut not user freedom.

The UK (and EU) should be on this but for Apple: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/main/ms-openspeclp/3589baea-5b22-48f2-9d43-f5bea4960ddb
 
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I would've cared more about this during the early years of the iPhone, when installing Cydia was a must to get key features and apps. The App Store and iOS is so mature now however, I couldn't care less about installing software from third party stores or websites. I'm guessing the average Joe probably hasn't even given it a second thought.
 
Many countries prohibit free speech. By your logic, that must mean social media companies are the issue! Right?

Can you please elaborate?

I don’t understand your point

Speaking of free speech, however, Apple has been removing apps that the American dictator doesn’t like.

That wouldn’t be a problem if one could install software from alternative sources
 
Can you please elaborate?

I don’t understand your point
You're not aware of countries that are pushing for (or already have laws) punishing people for saying non-threatening things?

Speaking of free speech, however, Apple has been removing apps that the American dictator doesn’t like.

That wouldn’t be a problem if one could install software from alternative sources

Web. You know, how iPhone users have been getting their porn fix since the first iPhone. This is nothing new, yet it's only a problem in recent years for some reason.
 
I find it so weird how folks on here jump in front of the proverbial bullet for a $4,000,000,000 company.

And as someone else pointed out, how many countries around the world are you going to say are wrong here?

It’s becoming like pushing water uphill.

If every single country on the planet comes out against Apple’s position, do we finally get to say maybe Apple’s position is untenable?
 
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I find it so weird how folks on here jump in front of the proverbial bullet for a $4,000,000,000 company.
I could say the same thing about people defending government regulators who do things like mandate encryption backdoors, give us endless cookie popups, and try to make all phones use microUSB as a charging port. The free market is working just fine here, government interference isn't going to make anything better - in fact it'll make things worse.

And as someone else pointed out, how many countries around the world are you going to say are wrong here?
As someone who has spent over 20 years working with government regulators, regulators like to regulate. If they see other regulators regulating, they want to do it too. Kinda like children. "IT'S NOT FAIR THE EU GETS TO TELL APPLE WHAT TO DO, I WANT TO TOO."
 
I find it so weird how folks on here jump in front of the proverbial bullet for a $4,000,000,000 company.

And as someone else pointed out, how many countries around the world are you going to say are wrong here?
I find it so weird that people want to place a proverbial atom bomb no it’s ands or buts for a company that produces consumer grade products.
 
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Apple's recent removal of the ICEBlock app is the latest evidence that they are unfit to be the sole gatekeeper of apps on iOS.

If having Alt-Stores means that Apple Intelligence and other AI balogne are delayed in being rolled out in the UK, I am more than fine with that.
 
Oh boy would I just so love to see Apple go into full advertising PR mode and state that they will be leaving the UK market if this is forced upon them.

Just watch how those in power would crumble in seconds, knowing how many voters this would enrage.

Sadly Tim does not have what it takes to stand up, and he'll probably buckle under pressure to avoid losing sales.
 
I wish they'd stop going on about this crap and start pushing for open standards and APIs on iCloud so we can actually get stuff in and out easily. You can tell it's not the end users who are lobbying for this stuff because it's not about interoperability or compatibility at all, it's about avoiding the 30% cut. That's why the app store is under attack, no other reason. Epic/EU/CMA backers and the like are all the same: it's about the cut not user freedom.

The UK (and EU) should be on this but for Apple: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/main/ms-openspeclp/3589baea-5b22-48f2-9d43-f5bea4960ddb

Yes finally someone said it. I don't see how offering alternative app stores on iOS helps at all. It just fragments the platform, which goes against the entire Apple ethos and why people buy into the Apple eco-system in the first place.

It is Apple's unfair payment terms and taking a huge cut of app profits, abusing their monopolistic position and forcing developers to agree to their terms. If they are going to operate a single app store that all apps have to sell through, Apple should be forced to offer fair terms, rather than just ruining the unified experience by diluting the platform with alternative crap ware.
 
As the original Macrumors article emphasises, the CMA ruling applies to both Apple and Google.

Smartphones have become the device of choice for our interaction with the digital world, and as such have evolved from nice-to-have gadgets (remember Steve Jobs original iPhone presentation?) to an everyday, almost-essential commodity ... in fact it's only a matter of time before access to, or ownership of, a mobile/cell phone is deemed to be human right.

There are two dominant ecosystems ... or prisons ... iOS and Android. The prisons have different characteristics, but they are prisons nevertheless. And for a commodity, something that is increasingly an essential part of modern life, Apple and Google cannot put all of us in a prison (either of them).

The content and use of my iPhone (or my Android phone) ... a phone I have paid a lot of money for ... cannot be controlled by just one tech company. That's why more and more governments ... and people! ..., including in the US, are getting fed up with these arrogant tech giants.

It would be quite different if there were dozens of different of options, because, to survive, they would have to offer interoperability. But with just two, they condemn us, the consumer, to lack of choice once we have entered their prison.
 
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