Apple Could Offer HBO, Showtime, and Starz Channels as 'Premium TV Bundle'

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple is considering offering HBO, Showtime, and Starz television channels in a combined "premium TV bundle" to be delivered to viewers via Apple TV and iOS devices, according to a new report on Sunday.

    Apple already enables users to buy the named channels individually, but according to a source who spoke to Recode, Apple has approached the three networks about rolling them up into a single paid package similar to how conventional TV operators market their channels.


    However, unlike paid TV operators like Charter, which usually require consumers to subscribe to a basic range of TV channels before offering a premium bundle, Apple wants to provide the package as an upfront standalone option for all its consumers.

    Apple has yet to nail down a deal with any of the networks, according to industry sources, while representatives from HBO, Stars, and Showtime declined to comment on the report. Apple also didn't respond to requests for comment.

    Apple currently offers HBO for $15 a month, Showtime for $11 a month, and Stars for $9 a month, but Recode had no information on the price of any possible bundle package.

    Apple's attempts to set up a traditional streaming bundle of TV channels have come to nothing in recent years, despite rival companies like Google and Hulu announcing plans of their own.

    In 2015, Apple was in talks for a streaming television service that would bundle several popular live channels and on-demand television at a price point of approximately $30 per month, but Apple canned the project after being unable to establish the necessary deals because content providers were reluctant to unbundle their channels.

    The company's assertive negotiation tactics with cable providers have also been blamed, with Apple executives accused of making demands networks aren't prepared to meet. Content providers meanwhile have been reluctant to agree to Apple's terms for fear of potentially compromising their traditional revenue streams.

    Apart from its TV subscription service ambitions, Apple is said to be building a "significant" business centered around creating original, scripted television shows and possibly even movies, for a possible launch by the end of 2017.

    Article Link: Apple Could Offer HBO, Showtime, and Starz Channels as 'Premium TV Bundle'
  2. -BigMac- macrumors 65816


    Apr 15, 2011
    Melbourne, Australia
  3. Villarrealadrian macrumors member

    Aug 13, 2016
  4. MysteryMii215 macrumors regular


    Jan 10, 2016
    NYC area
  5. FatherJack1980 macrumors regular


    Dec 31, 2015
    Hmmm....... Apple seems to be using the word "premium" a lot (well, ok, not Apple per say but Macrumors in this case and in the case of the iPhone 8), which I find to be scary as it makes me think they'll put a massive price tag on it. Hopefully they won't do it with this nor the iPhone 8/X/6sss or what ever it will be called.
  6. d21mike macrumors 68040


    Jul 11, 2007
    Torrance, CA
    How much would you pay? I had all three with Apple for a while. Then got HBO with DTV Now for $5 and now free for 1 year. I added Showtime to Hulu for less then Apple was charging. They would need to offer a really nice bundled price to get me back. Apple really needs to create a full streaming service to compete with the others. Seems like they are not getting much support for SSO and full integration with TV App.
  7. tennisproha macrumors 65816

    Jun 24, 2011
    What puzzles me is how Apple is sitting on a gold mine with the virtually complete collection of TV shows and movies they have in iTunes. They could just renegotiate those contracts and offer iTunes as a monthly subscription. It's the motherload of catalogues. They could wipe the competition clean, except for Netflix and Amazon original programming.
  8. mariusignorello macrumors 65816

    Jun 9, 2013
    Yes, a line item on the bill would be "Apple Tax" :D
  9. WordsmithMR macrumors 6502


    Mar 17, 2015
    So it's going to revealed in May! Gotcha!
  10. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Another story about plans that Apple has but no deals in place. Why does Eddy Cue still have a job?
    --- Post Merged, Apr 2, 2017 ---
    Can you imagine what that would cost???
  11. chriscrowlee macrumors 65816


    Aug 10, 2015
    San Diego, CA
    I don't get it. Back in the days, HBO\SHO\STZ used to have brand new movies... now they're just a bunch of old movies, and series nobody likes. Now the only way they're able to sell the packages of premium channels is by including them free, or offering them at discount for limited times. The only people I know who still watch these channels anymore are people who watch for a single show.
  12. furi0usbee macrumors 68000


    Jul 11, 2008
    Yeah, you would be giving your hands, and maybe an arm and a leg... so you would pay $30/mo for this *new* Apple plan, plus $9.95 for that, plus $8.95/mo for that, plus $19.99/mo for that....... paying for all these services just to get half the channels you really want.... stick with the bundle dude.... it's cheaper.

    All you are doing is paying more money to more companies to get the keys to the walled gardens. And you end up paying more than you would because ISPs are going to up their prices for stand alone internet access, then reduce big time bundled packages with TV and internet.

    We are just chasing different methods to pay the same (or more) to the greedy media companies. Just different ways for them to get our money, just thinly disguised as the future.

    Now, if there were an open standard where all channels could submit their content, and we can purchase just what we want, well that would be the future of media. As it stands now, these are all just bundles and junior bundles and light bundles, but bundles none the less.
  13. mattopotamus macrumors G5


    Jun 12, 2012
    This would be great if the price was right.
  14. nvmls macrumors 6502a


    Mar 31, 2011
    Why not hands up, don't wanna be noticed that wisely?
  15. The Barron macrumors 6502

    Mar 5, 2009
    Is that when the new iMacs are being debuted too? :D
  16. capandjudy macrumors member


    Oct 31, 2013
    Huntington, WV
    Agreed. There are very few programs that are not a waste of time. I really see little value in the so called "premium channels" except the lack of commercials. I'm totally not interested.
  17. Westside guy macrumors 603

    Westside guy

    Oct 15, 2003
    The soggy side of the Pacific NW
    All these companies are seemingly hellbent on recreating the failing cable TV business model...
  18. Tech198 macrumors G5

    Mar 21, 2011
    Australia, Perth
    It's easier to grab separate channels (which already doing it themselves), than turn to networks that have never done this before because their to scared of profit losses.

    Good job Apple.. I'm sure u'll catch some carpet baggars. (i mean users) :D
  19. coolbreeze macrumors 68000


    Jan 20, 2003
    I got that same deal for $35. The way it's looking DirecTV now may have me as a customer for life for the price. It's insane especially with the free year of HBO.
  20. chriscrowlee macrumors 65816


    Aug 10, 2015
    San Diego, CA
    I agree. I don't get it. I guess some people still think HBO and Showtime show new movies. Guess it's the grasping at straws to salvage a few dollars out of a failing industry before it's gone forever. I think it's smart for Apple because they'll probably partner and offer a free or discounted trial, and there's no downside for Apple because it costs them nothing, yet they share in the revenue.

    If only Apple put as much effort into developing quality products as they put into skimming cents on the dollar off app sales, subscription sales, and payment processing. I remember when Apple offered great laptops and desktops, routers, displays, etc... as well as amazing service in retail and online. What happened? The service model will only work as long as people stay hooked to the ecosystem with iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, and Mac... and they are losing marketshare in all of these categories, so much like the growth took several years to ramp as their product popularity gained, but in a couple years the same service revenue will wane as the popularity of their products shrinks.

    Sadly Apple's ecosystem only works as a hook if a customer is 100% all in. The second someone leaves the ecosystem with even one category (laptop, desktop, tablet, phone, tv), it removes the "stickiness" of the ecosystem, since it's rendered useless with one product defection.
  21. sfwalter macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004
    Dallas Texas
    Great a bundle of channels I have no interest in purchasing.
  22. McGiord macrumors 601


    Oct 5, 2003
    Dark Castle
    Let's say they can sell it for $30 per month, and would be a significant catalog that would give a leveling field of opportunities for low budget movies and tv shows some "streaming time", which would be granted access to millions of consumers, which would be financing those heavy binge users. You don't watch a movie while working, in contrast with streaming music services whic allow you to listen while driving, or any other activities you may do. Therefore there will be plenty of subscribers that will pay and barely consume. Apple will pay per stream, therefore they will get the numbers balanced to have a volume of loyal repeat customers era whom will be buying their new hardware and subscription services for years to come.
  23. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000


    Oct 22, 2014
    known but velocity indeterminate
    Get current theatrical releases in there and I'd pay a couple hundred a month for it.
  24. Stevez67 macrumors member


    Dec 24, 2016
    Bundle = cord and I cut the cord. So how is paying for a "bundle" of garbage channels different just because it's delivered over the internet? No thanks.
  25. furi0usbee macrumors 68000


    Jul 11, 2008
    Even channels/networks are living in the 20th century. I only want to pay for content. I don't want AMC, I just want the one or two shows that I watch. When the current generation who pays for cable dies out, these companies better have something better than a bundle, or they are going down.

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