Apple will just add it to the prices of devices and services. We will be paying this bill.
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Apple Could Pay 'Total Political Crap' $14 Billion Tax Bill to EU After All
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Alternatively, they could accommodate their customers and lower Tim's salary.
Win, Win, Except for Tim!
There is still not a gotcha there, as while they follow majority of cases (operative word majority and not all) it is still non-binding and I assume that the person making the recommendation does it after much deliberation and presents those deliberation instead of "hurr-durr, apple pay big now."
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You hate on our court despite not even understanding it. Ironic.
Of course the advocate-general has no power to decide anything but the Court of Justice (akin to SCOTUS in matters of Union law) will consider his arguments.
No, that's not quite it. As others have noted, this was an opinion and not a formal ruling as opinions by advocates-general are non-binding. The actual ruling/decision by the European Court of Justice isn't expected until next year. All of this was explained in the article.
Many Europeans have either lived in a then-communist country or only a few hundred km from the border of one and yet Americans, who basically are on the other side of the planet continue to lecture us as to what communism is. No thanks, we certainly have more experience than you.
lol. Apple would have KNOWN they were circumventing the rules. KNOWN!!!
When Joe Public gets arrested and says he didn't know what he was doing was illegal, what is he first told?
Ignorance of the law is no defence.
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Lowering or even eliminating Tim Cook's salary/compensation would hardly make a difference. Cook made around $100 million (USD) in salary, stock, bonus, etc. last year. Apple sold around 230 million iPhones last year. If that $100 million (USD) was used to lower the price of each of those iPhones, it would come to an average of around 44 cents (USD) per phone and that's just iPhone sales. Factor in Mac sales, iPad sales, Watch sales, subscriptions, etc. and the average customer would save even less than that. Big picture, reducing or eliminating Tim's compensation (as large as it is) would have practically no impact on product pricing.
Care to back that up with some facts?
Go to Western Europe and you’ll see real freedom not us Americans so called freedom that the right wing here has brainwashed a lot of us into believing… it’s only “free” here if you have a spare 100 million dollars…
Apple complied with Irish tax laws so it is legal.
Europe has a lot of nerves telling other countries that their laws are “illegal”.
Europe has a lot of nerves telling other countries that their laws are “illegal”.
No big deal.
They’ll just add an extra 50 bucks on every new iPhone next year.
Instead of 999.00 you’ll see more of 1,049.00 and such prices.
Bottom line: in the end we pay for every one of Apple’s screw-ups. Be it this or anything else.
They’ll just add an extra 50 bucks on every new iPhone next year.
Instead of 999.00 you’ll see more of 1,049.00 and such prices.
Bottom line: in the end we pay for every one of Apple’s screw-ups. Be it this or anything else.
I am not sure how you got the idea that an advocate general is anything like an attorney general?
An attorney general works for a government as its legal advisor.
An advocate general works for a court and is barred from working in an administrative or political position for a government or similar authority. Within the European courts they need special permission from the court to take on any external work.
A very rough comparison would be to equate an advocate general with a clerk to a Supreme Court judge.
The advocate generals are national judges or senior lawyers, and cases before the ECJ and cases are assigned to them to consider the case and write a report. In the lower court General Court a judge can also act as an advocate general.
Their opinion is non-binding because they are not the judges on the case, but they are influential because they prepare the case, research the law, and present conclusions. It is uncommon for their opinions to be rejected completely and usually when not fully accepted it will only be a minor disagreement over legal interpretations rather than issues involving matters of fact.
You know it is called European Union for a fact, together with encompassing laws that members have to follow and abide by. Heck even in my country laws had to be amended as they ran afould of laws of the ones of the European Unions.
What kind of democracy is that? You vote for a government which hopefully creates laws that you approve off, only for some European entity who you did not vote for declare it is illegal, because the European Union wants a monopoly on tax revenue.
And now this European Union goes after companies for following the law?
But what if something better comes along? Are we going to wait for the EU to sign off on it?
Thanks to USB-C, I now need to bring 2 chargers to the office instead of 1 previously.
1. USB-C charger for my iPhone 15 Pro Max
2. Lightning charger for my AirPods.
Thanks EU for needing 2 different charges now?
Yeah… I’m sure Apple planned to splinter off a new iPhone model with USB-C while the newer phones with Lightning. 🙄. EU brought USB-C to iPhone.
I haven’t used USB-C for data even once for my iPhone 15 Pro, and I never planned to. The benefit for me was getting rid of existing charging cables, since I had both Lightning and USB-C in multiple spots. One cable is bliss, and it could/should have been this way 5+ years ago.
Wow, just wow...
A good one actually. So the European Union are not kind of despots, the European Parliament, a legaslative body of the EU, consists of represantives of member states. So those are voted in...
How do you think the legaslative body of the EU is formed? By Musical Chairs?
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Silly argument. Is there a new port on the horizon? Is anybody asking for a new port? Is there something limiting about USB-C that an updated port would alleviate?
USB-C isn’t going anywhere in the next two decades, if ever. If anything, wireless tech will take its place.
Exactly this. And EU cannot practically punish Apple for this practice either.
Nah, add eddy and Craig, among other top leadership to the mix.
They ALL SHALL SUFFER!
Nah, he’ll just keep 8GB base RAM for 5 more years.
I will. And as a citizen of an EU member state, I will also remember this when the USA, China, India ... are already using the successor, because in the EU we will still be using the then obsolete USB-C.
Laws are slower than innovation.
Multinational corporations pass much of the tax increases to the consumers. In the end, arguing for more Apple taxes is an argument to pay more for Apple products.