Again, these charges will not remove anything we already have, but will bring in more possibilities. We can install anything on a Mac and PC and they did not exactly destroy the free market as yet.
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Apple Could Soon Face 'Sweeping' U.S. Antitrust Lawsuit
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Again, these charges will not remove anything we already have, but will bring in more possibilities. We can install anything on a Mac and PC and they did not exactly destroy the free market as yet.
That’s not what this is about. Apple acts like a bully, and anyone who can’t see it isn’t willing to look at reality. They steal IP and outspend on attorneys, then people here complain patent troll. But Masimo isn’t a patent troll in any way. That’s just one example. There are many App developers who have had their ideas stolen right from Apple. Then there are copycat apps that Apple does nothing to stop. Apple has created a standard and they hold it as a monopoly. As a business person, Tim Cook is too greedy due to his wanting to own more and more stock and make another $100m each year. I could literally list 100 more things Apple does, but fans just think well I will just use Apple anyways. The point is they have gotten so big and so power hungry that nobody can compete at any level. That’s the start of a monopoly. And you have no statement about the money Tim took from China, that’s against national interest for a company that’s from America. He’s power hungry - he eliminated his competition within the company for the CEO position. He acts like a bully, stealing from and eliminating competition. They act even worse when it comes to acting like they’re getting taken advantage of and all the fans here clammer for them.
Apple is too big and has lost all the goodness. It’s all about money and power. I can love my Apple products and see what they have done to competition. And Microsoft and Nokia and etc, you’re talking about something different. That wasn’t choice. It’s not about choice right now. Most of the time companies like Apple buy up the technology they want, and that eliminates competition also, but AAPL just steals it.
The whole thing is capitalism is about letting companies compete. It’s not about letting the wealthiest 1% decide the world and screwing over the rest of the people. I work with clients who are in the top 1% daily, and they would all tell you they don’t need this much money. But these are investors who see value in other people. One of my investors introduced me to his janitor. The janitor could afford to own a home and his wife didn’t have to work, they could eat well and had a nice life. My client was proud of that. There is nobody proud at Apple. Tim Cook lies about his environment initiatives also, and it’s obvious when we see Apple shipping truly outdated tech to people who don’t understand the difference and what they’re buying. And those people trust Apple. That’s the thing, AAPL should not be trusted.
People can say whatever they want and it doesn’t make it reality. Actions and facts we see from AAPL prove they’re bad for the world. They’re like a dictatorship country all by themselves- but with more money than most bad actors.
You have been sold a web of lies. You can though choose to not put anything on your Apple products that has any other software. Sure, companies like Facebook will do evil. But the point is we should all have the choice for ourselves. That’s what has been eliminated by a megacorporation that acts like a bully.
When Apple starts adding all these open features for users in the EU, many people will choose to just use Apple services. The problem with that is Apple has acted in a manner and sold a sales pitch to users for so long that the users want the dictator. This happens in countries with dictators. The people cry when the dictator dies - but the reality is the vast majority of the people want out of the rule of the dictator. But they don’t want to leave their home and family. Apple is like a dictator, where nobody can put the foot down or even fight them with legitimate patents owned by legit companies. And Apple reaps what is sews as just look at where it chose to build all those products - right where their IP was stolen. And when their IP is stolen they fight. But they expect everyone else to just lie down and take it when they steal other companies IP.
This isn’t even close. This is not the point of free enterprise. This is not capitalism at its finest. This is greed.
Funny that many people defend being locked in. If Apple's ecosystem opens up because of that lawsuit, you can still decide to use stay use all those Apple services. You can keep your Apple Watch and still use Apple Pay. The Apple Watch might get cheaper though if it finally faces competition that has the same access to all iPhone features. If alternative app stores are allowed, Apple may be forced o take a smaller fee to still stay competitive.
People say that Apple does not have a monopoly because there is still Android. Android is not really an alternative for privacy reasons though. Moving to Android is like moving to China because it has less crime than the US. If Apple cracks down on the walled garden of Apple and also on the privacy breaches of Google, the consumer wins.
People say that Apple does not have a monopoly because there is still Android. Android is not really an alternative for privacy reasons though. Moving to Android is like moving to China because it has less crime than the US. If Apple cracks down on the walled garden of Apple and also on the privacy breaches of Google, the consumer wins.
There is a difference, but again, sideloading is not a basic human right. The point is you buy a package—the device, the software, the warranty under given conditions—what you choose to do with your purchase of that package after that is up to you, that is your only basic human right. But you have to be aware of the consequences and fully accept them. No company is obligated to change/accommodate their package after the buyer has purchased it based on the buyer’s whims. The only power the buyer has is to buy the package or not—and that is significant power. The problem here is people feel entitled to have the power to do more than that—to tell a company what package they can or can’t sell and to change laws in order to do that if they have to. That’s not right.
This is insane. Apple is so good because they are so good. Others cant compete because they simply suck compared to Apple. If some company invented something super cool they would compete with Apple. But they haven’t. Instead of trying to come up with something awesome they now try to make Apple weaker so they could push their crap to the consumers more easily. It’s nuts to try limit Apple with legislation. Nokia was once dominating mobile phone industry. We could have made same argument then, that it’s hard to compete in that market. But all it took was innovation and Nokia as a mobile phone king was history.
With all due respect, I am not sure if you understand issues of cyber security. While we may still choose to use Apple devices if Apple’s ecosystem is opened up, having alternative app stores (for example) jeopardizes the whole platform, regardless which devices you use.
An alternative App Store may not adhere to the same security standards for iOS apps Apple employs right now. There is no telling whether a developer is telling us the truth if they say they aren’t tracking or doing anything nefarious with our data. At least, with only one point of entry, Apple, we can rely on them as they are held responsible for letting such violations to go through. We have examples of Google tracking users despite outwardly stating they do not want to. How can your guarantee any third party App Store or app developer will comply to the same rules and regulations?
We are living in an unprecedented era. Much of our civil liberties have been eroded and are about to. There are reasons people want end-to-end encryptions and no tracking. We even have the “right to forget” on the internet in the EU.
This isn’t about competition, but civil liberties.
Apple might have limited control over what an app does with the data it collects, but it will still be possible to toggle which information an app gets. If Apple designed iOS well, not app will be able to steal data from other apps. On a Mac you can install third party software and I usually have much more private information on my notebook than on my phone. My whole "adult content" collection is on my notebook and not my phone as well as all important documents. So Apple would have to explain, why a closed ecosystem is needed on a phone, but not on a notebook.
I see it as a liberty that I can install any app I want on MY phone. Those who are afraid of viruses can just delete any third party app store. There are for example certain countries that I will not visit because of the high crime rate. But I am still allowed to visit them. That is the concept of liberty.
Good to see the US regulators doing their jobs. We can’t only count on the EU to keep megacorps in check.
There are already a couple of ongoing US antitrust lawsuits against Google, and one against Amazon was announced a few months ago.
Who's keeping the EU in check?
You shouldn't use absolutes, because I'm happy being 'locked' to Apple Pay, thereby rendering 'nobody' factually incorrect.
The problem with Apple Pay is you can't win. Now you can't use other payment apps but... remember Netflix?
If anyone could use the NFC then you'd end up with 10 exclusive apps to make payments with. With varying degrees of stability and security.
Neither option looks so good
The people. We have EU elections in June. Go vote.
Yeah elections are a mixed bag of bribes, biases, agendas, vitriol, and hollow promises. There needs to be more than just people.
It isn't. Still doesn't excuse the fact that Apple had a good old go at using their platform to hobble a competitor.
Weird that no one here is calling Apple to pull out of the US market
Yeah! Maybe some very smart people should come up with a better system with multiple independent powers: legislative, executive and judicial for a start. And media to investigate and report.
Let's move the goalposts back. Try to remember that everyone is NOT YOU. The government isn't of, by and for Apple fanboys.
That’s right. If the US government comes down hard on Apple they should just pull out of the states. They could relocate their HQ to the Republic of Ireland and their assembly lines are all Asian anyway. ‘Designed by Apple in ROI’ has less letters. They’d save a few bob on printing costs.
I'm not like a pro-capitalism person, but I am having a bit of a hard time understanding how this is an anti-trust issue. Apple set up their system so that it's vertically integrated. They DON'T have the entire computing or mobile phone industry vertically integrated. They only have THEIR version of it integrated.
If one is to argue that Apple Watch works better on iPhones and cannot work on other phones and therefore that's an anti-trust issue, then how about the fact that only Garmin devices can operate with their Garmin Connect website? Or, how about the fact that no other software can be uploaded to, say, a Tesla console unless Tesla allows it? Or what about Connectivity features on the Tesla console that only Tesla can offer (e.g., live traffic visualisation and video streaming); no other third party can offer that on the Tesla console.
I'm just randomly picking examples of what seems analogous to me and that are ridiculous to call monopoly issues.
If one is to argue that Apple Watch works better on iPhones and cannot work on other phones and therefore that's an anti-trust issue, then how about the fact that only Garmin devices can operate with their Garmin Connect website? Or, how about the fact that no other software can be uploaded to, say, a Tesla console unless Tesla allows it? Or what about Connectivity features on the Tesla console that only Tesla can offer (e.g., live traffic visualisation and video streaming); no other third party can offer that on the Tesla console.
I'm just randomly picking examples of what seems analogous to me and that are ridiculous to call monopoly issues.
Wow you really did all that and not just use export option 😂
Even before that AppleScript exists and their were scripts that did exactly this
Import and export keychain items using Keychain Access on Mac
In Keychain Access on your Mac, you can import or export keychain items between computers.
https://www.tenorshare.com/password-manage/export-safari-passwords.html
https://support.nordpass.com/hc/en-us/articles/4416377281809-How-to-export-passwords-from-Safari
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