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Hasn't made a decision to abandon Siri??? At this point, it's so laughably behind everything else.... what's the hesitation?
 
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How does this rhyme with other rumors/news stating Apple has a LLM themselves that works on par with others, just not locally like they wanted it to? I don’t see how teaming up with a third party that has to run on remote servers all the same makes much sense if they have that technology in-house too.

From a business standpoint, it makes sense that Apple would be talking to competitors. Big companies often engage in discussions with outside vendors to collect requirements for their own products and to explore contingencies in the event they can’t execute on schedule.

Apple probably does have a semi-competitive LLM — I say “semi” because it isn’t being subjected to real-world users the way OpenAI and Anthropic, et al., products are. Your point about teaming up with a third party is likely the subject of hot debate inside Apple along all the usual dimensions: function, schedule, cost, and politics.
 
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Oh man...

If they force this on users too much or too deeply, some of us will have some big decisions to make.

Don't worry @surferfb, my friend, I'd be voting with my wallet and purchasing decisions (and leaving).
A bit of an overreaction given: "Both companies are training versions of their models that would work with Apple's Private Cloud Compute servers." This would be running privately on Apple's servers, just like current Siri requests. It's just the application layer to replace Siri.
 
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Please be Claude. It’s the best model and last I heard they weren’t very profitable. An Apple partnership would be a big boost to their finances.
 
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Well... if this is true I hope they allow Siri to be decoupled from other parts of iOS (for example, it must be enabled for carplay, which is dumb and shouldn't be nessisary) because I will be completely disabling SiriGPT. I don't care what contracts they have with Apple, if your trust that GPT won't mine your data, you're a fool. It will just be a matter of when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, not if.
 
A bit of an overreaction given: "Both companies are training versions of their models that would work with Apple's Private Cloud Compute servers." This would be running privately on Apple's servers, just like current Siri requests. It's just the application layer to replace Siri.

Did you miss where I said “if” at the beginning?

My reaction to this is going to depend on what the actual implementation is and how much I can not be a part of it if I don’t want to.
 
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Well... if this is true I hope they allow Siri to be decoupled from other parts of iOS (for example, it must be enabled for carplay, which is dumb and shouldn't be nessisary) because I will be completely disabling SiriGPT. I don't care what contracts they have with Apple, if your trust that GPT won't mine your data, you're a fool. It will just be a matter of when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, not if.

Exactly my feelings.
 
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I get the feeling, apple is going to quietly not mention privacy around anything but Safari going forward.

I think they like the marketing of it so they will probably just gaslight around it.

They had a VP lying under oath. Nothing is beneath Apple anymore.

Times have changed in Cupertino.
 
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I REALLY hope theyre not using a third party for the “personal context” stuff. The whole point was that it’s supposed to be secure and on device or in their private servers, right? Definitely won’t be using Siri or Apple Intelligence if this comes to pass
 
The big problem with AI is that people are way more impressed with something that gives you any answer confidently, rather than correctly. It doesn't matter how much hallucinated BS these things throw at people-- half the users don't bother to check it or follow-up
Don't worry.

As AI adoption picks up, original sources - newspapers, books, research papers - will more and more be written by (or with the help of) AI tools themselves. Which in turn get fed into newer and more powerful AI models again.

Creating a feedback loop in which AI's output and will eventually - slowly but surely - trickle down to "authoritative" sources, ultimately consolidating published truth and facts with AI's findings.
 
Don't worry.

As AI adoption picks up, original sources - newspapers, books, research papers - will more and more be written by (or with the help of) AI tools themselves. Which in turn get fed into newer and more powerful AI models again.

A feedback loop, in which AI's findings will slowly trickle down to "authoritative" sources. Published truth and facts will slowly "adjust", thereby taking care of the problem.

Soon “actually knowing things” is going to be a great skill to have.
 
They cant even make their own AI server as Apple Silicon isn't powerful enough to replace Nvidia GPU.
This is not true. the M3 Ultra is great as an AI server. Apple can make whatever they want, they could make something even better for their servers. Apple Silicon is getting extremely popular for local AI models. Nvidia is overrated.
 
Well... if this is true I hope they allow Siri to be decoupled from other parts of iOS (for example, it must be enabled for carplay, which is dumb and shouldn't be nessisary) because I will be completely disabling SiriGPT. I don't care what contracts they have with Apple, if your trust that GPT won't mine your data, you're a fool. It will just be a matter of when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, not if.
What data is ChatGPT going to be able to “mine“ without your permission?
 
Not shocking. Apple has a history of partnering with the developed names in an area, while working on their own in-house on the back end.
Google Maps, TomTom, WolframAlpha, Intel, Qualcomm, Weather Channel, etc.

Partner with OpenAi until the LLM Siri is ready and then phase out that partnership
 
Hardest possible pass. If Apple wants to make sure I fully disable Siri on all my devices and never, ever turn on Apple Intelligence, this is the way to do it.
That's all right, Apple will turn on Apple Intelligence for you. The second time it happened I gave up and reverted to Sonoma.

As for "Do you not trust Apple?" Not really. Trusting any corporation is foolish.
 
Outside of designing elegant operating systems, Apple has never been great at software development. It was painfully obvious to anyone that has been following Siri over the years that Apple was completely out of their element and had no idea what to do or which direction to take. When they finally do implement a 3rd party solution (which is their only way to catch up at this point), they really need to toss the Siri name into the garbage and come up with a new moniker. The name Siri has negative connotations at this point.
 
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