Not true. There is a group called Appleseed that has access to them without paying $99.
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Apple Cracks Down on Websites Sharing iOS 16 Developer Beta
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Not true. There is a group called Appleseed that has access to them without paying $99.
Software engineering best practices are to have as many people as possible testing said software in order to identify and fix bugs prior to it going on general release. The more people testing the more bugs are going to be found
The people beta testing dev builds are by far a minority of users but as long as those people are reporting feedback to Apple to allow bugs to be fixed they are actually helping the development process
It is a sad day. (Also surprised it took this long… guess I'll never delete the dev profiles now?)
They change them for major versions so it’s only going to work for the 16.x beta train. But as others have said there will always be a way around it
I think those on the dev beta from sites like these are probably more likely than public beta users to file bug reports as they’re enthusiasts, they just hold off on filing given they got the beta from an unofficial source.
Well, the example the other poster gave of kids wanting the latest beta (presumably to one up their friends) was what I was referring to. Users like those wouldn’t file bug reports, or at least good bug reports.
I don't understand why people still use these sites or why they even exist when there is a PUBLIC BETA program... There are almost no differences between the dev and public betas other than devs get them slightly earlier and possibly a few bug fixes that the devs had to deal with. I'm a paid developer, but I'm going to cancel my subscription since I haven't done any iOS dev in the last year, and I'm not currently running the beta.
I've been using betaprofiles for iOS and MacOS for years, and happily file Feedbacks as required. Admittedly they're usually ignored, but occasionally I end up in dialogue with someone at Apple and it doesn't seem to matter that I never gave them $100 to play with their buggy software.
It’s pretty simple—the dev profiles come out a lot earlier than the public profiles. Just people antsy to get the beta early.
You’ve answered your lack of understanding why people use the dev beta program rather than the public one. Because the public betas don’t align with the dev betas
Well, that happens to devs, too. Radar (Apple’s bug reporting system) is the first man made black hole. But sometimes we get Hawking radiation in the form of actual responses.
I've been running the betas since iOS 7 and have always used another method to get the profiles. I'm an enthusiast and wanna test out the newer features but I also report an bugs that I encounter
Apple could very easily lock down dev betas to those who have paid dev accounts, why are they doing this pointless nonsense?
I'm sure there's always gonna be a way to go around that (like how they tied it with your UDID number. not sure if they are still doing it)
I don’t get it. Betaprofiles has been around for a long time. Why now? It isn’t like these site just popped up. I figured Apple just reached a point that they were going to ignore it existed. I mean, it has been 3 or 4 years since these sites started.
Because they don’t want to open up the black market for UDID slots that existed when developer betas were locked to dev accounts and before there was a public beta
People were signing up to a dev account for $99 and then profiting from people paying $5 or so for a slot on their dev account
That was a far worse situation than what Apple seem to be trying to prevent now
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It also won’t cut down on the hordes of know-it-all elitist fools who waste bandwidth complaining about them.
Ahh you're right, had forgotten they did that. Will have to jump to public beta at some point then.
They still do this for app signing, wouldn't make much of a difference and would significantly cut down on the number of dev betas out there either way.
Apple don’t want public media coverage from the Dev beta. The dev branch specifically forbids devs from publicly talking about the beta and sharing screenshots and videos. The clue is in the name, it’s for developers, not public consumption.
If money is the main issue why doesn’t apple just have a Early Release Beta program that is $50/year 🤷🏾♂️. I’d pay $50 to be able to be on the cutting edge of Betas. I don’t develop apps so $99 would be overkill. Just my .02
I have been and still am a registered developer with Apple for over a decade but the one thing I found convenient about sites like betaprofiles.com was for downloading AppleTV betas. It’s always been a complete pain in the A—- to get the beta profile loaded onto an AppleTV.
Often I have to setup a web server just to deliver the profile to the unit. Or I have to go through a convoluted process with Xcode (which I don’t like loading onto every single Apple computer I may have in use).
I know this may be an edge case but the process was much easier when we had the option to cable load things onto the Apple TV.
Aside from that the developer website is fine.
Often I have to setup a web server just to deliver the profile to the unit. Or I have to go through a convoluted process with Xcode (which I don’t like loading onto every single Apple computer I may have in use).
I know this may be an edge case but the process was much easier when we had the option to cable load things onto the Apple TV.
Aside from that the developer website is fine.
The public beta program made a huge difference. Prior to that there were websites charging $5 to $10 for a UDID slot which was necessary to activate the dev betas
The public beta program killed those sites dead. I still get emails from some of them begging me to pay them for a slot which is no longer needed because Apple stopped needing UDID’s to be registered the year they launched the public beta program
As I’ve mentioned earlier in the thread the number of people running a dev beta isn’t an issue as long as those people are contributing to the development process by reporting bugs