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Apple Cracks Down on Websites Sharing iOS 16 Developer Beta
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Good thing I was still able to download the OTA block profile for my iPhone 6s and iPhone 7 Plus... Other than my iPad 9, I don't have any other devices compatible with iOS 16/iPadOS 16 and I am planning on sticking with the public non-beta releases for the iPad...
There are other possible sources of beta profile and IPSW direct links outside of the Apple website... We just have to maximize the search engines...
There are other possible sources of beta profile and IPSW direct links outside of the Apple website... We just have to maximize the search engines...
They do that for a reason. There will always be a way, to get things you shouldn't. We all did that at one point or another, then when you understand the why's you dont do it anymore.
I think that is a terrible idea. If you are not a developer, you should wait your turn with the Public Beta's it's not like they take years to come out.
Appleseed is for IT professionals working with a company that has a contract with Apple.
Enthusiast or not, you should pony up like everyone else. Getting the files any other way than the official way of getting them through either Apple Beta program, or being a developer, hurts the efforts of all of us who do make a living out of this.
Why spend any money when you can get the access for free if you wait a couple of weeks for the beta to come out.
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I'm honestly happy, they shut down these people. One thing is covering "rumors" and one thing is encouraging to tamper things to get yourh ands on a piece of software you should not have in your hands. If you want it so bad, pay the damn $99. If you are complaining about not being able to afford $99 then you probably shouldnt be on Apple Hardware anyways.
My .02 cents.
This year was the first time I used BetaProfiles. Normally I wait for the Public beta, but got anxious this year so gave it a go. I have had 0 issues and I also file bug reports with apple. I understand that it is a beta and their could and probably will be issued. This "why not just wait for the public beta" is great for those who want to run the beta but not file bugs, yes they can wait for the public beta. With that being said, most people running betas understand it is a beta and the risks that come along with it. Getting it a little earlier and reporting bugs can help apple work out the kinks quicker so the public beta (and eventual RC) is more stable. But I am sure apple will claim "inflation" is the cause and they need that $99 to pad the bottom line.
I’m guessing it could be something as simple as the ease in acquiring the profile meant that, on dev update pushes, paying developers were seeing slow downloads due to all the folks hitting the server… maybe some multiple over the number of devs that exist. Folks who want them will still be able to get them, but your casual user won’t find it as easy as downloading from this site.
Folks who want them will still be able to get them, but your casual user won’t find it as easy as downloading from this site.Do you remember when you had to pay for a Mac Version update? This was common practice with Windows and Apple, which Apple stopped charging for. People can wait for at least the public beta.
I don’t know if it’s a generational thing, but some people feel entitled to other peoples property. Apple are well within their rights to do this and except for the most selfish people, the majority would support this idea.
Even BetaProfiles.com say they are a site dedicated to discussing beta products. They are not a site to distribute software illegally.
I don’t know if it’s a generational thing, but some people feel entitled to other peoples property. Apple are well within their rights to do this and except for the most selfish people, the majority would support this idea.
Even BetaProfiles.com say they are a site dedicated to discussing beta products. They are not a site to distribute software illegally.
Yes, but some people don’t like to wait a month.
I don’t think it has to do with entitlement, it has to do with people being excited about new features of an OS, and wanting to experience the features immediately.
Pro tip, on the Mac, install Apple Configurator. You can then wirelessly add the AppleTV and wirelessly install the beta profile.
Alternativley, you can store your TVOS profile in Dropbox, click share with link, change the end of the link from dl=0 to dl=1.
Go to your Apple TV, go to the Settings app, choose General, choose Privacy and then hover over the Send to Apple menu item without clicking it. Instead, press the Play/Pause button on the remote, which brings you to a hidden screen to add your profile. Click Add Profile and select OK when prompted.
On your phone, use the Apple Remote app to paste in the Dropbox link and it will install.
No need to install XCode or any web servers.
I actually covered that in a different post. If you don’t 100% trust the site hosting the profile, then you can’t trust the hash they give you (assuming they give you one). If you know the hash of the official profile, that’s one thing. But, if you have the hash of the official profile, you’ve probably got access to said profile and don’t need to access it through one of these sites. (And I suppose hash collisions could be a thing, depending on whether they’re using an insecure hash algorithm, but that’s a pretty far fetched concern.) And in general, I acknowledge or at least implied I was taking something of a paranoid stance.
But, of course, when it comes to security, we need the people who are paranoid about it as well as the people who think “how would an attacker attack this system?” Without them, we’d be without security, I suppose.
The big difference is in order to use a dev beta, you enter into a legally binding contract with Apple. By going to a third party such as Beta Profiles, there is no binding agreement with Apple and no guarantee that the profile you are getting only loads a beta of iOS. iOS is covered by a multitude of patents and is Apple’s property. It’s up to Apple with whom they share it with.This year was the first time I used BetaProfiles. Normally I wait for the Public beta, but got anxious this year so gave it a go. I have had 0 issues and I also file bug reports with apple. I understand that it is a beta and their could and probably will be issued. This "why not just wait for the public beta" is great for those who want to run the beta but not file bugs, yes they can wait for the public beta. With that being said, most people running betas understand it is a beta and the risks that come along with it. Getting it a little earlier and reporting bugs can help apple work out the kinks quicker so the public beta (and eventual RC) is more stable. But I am sure apple will claim "inflation" is the cause and they need that $99 to pad the bottom line.
Lets be honest, beta profiles and the like, likely paid $99 for dev access and then illegally offered the beta profile publicly (it’s no longer linked to an account or device ID). This is nothing more than piracy and is a nefarious way of directing clicks and views to their website where they’re likely making a lot more than the $99 dev fee. You cannot legally offer somebody else’s IP without permission. To knowingly use a service such as this makes you part of the problem.
Thankfully Apple is now addressing this issue more thoroughly:
Apple Moves to Prevent iPhone Users From Getting iOS 17 Developer Beta for Free
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But still, patience is a virtue. And delayed gratification is an important skill part of me fears we’re losing. Today, I had a doctor’s appointment, and I saw four people waiting in the hall. What did they do while they waited? No points for guessing, say it with me, “they took their phones out of their pockets and started using them”. I’m legitimately trying (and sometimes failing but sometimes succeeding) to cut back how much I use my phone. When I have a family of my own, I want to be able to model healthy uses of technology to them so they can use things like smartphones and social media in healthy, beneficial ways. But I’ve noticed that people today really hate being bored. I’ve even noticed that tendency in myself sometimes, even though I feel I’m doing better in keeping myself occupied sans phone than most of the people around me.
Sorry for the tangent, it just strikes me that, if you can’t wait a month for the public beta, there are a whole lot of things out there that you’ll never do because you can’t stick with it long enough. This past year, I spent six or eight months knitting a very intricate sweater. That was a true test of my resolve, but it looks really great now that it’s finished, and I’ve got a tremendous sense of accomplishment from finishing it. There are things worth doing that might take six months to do or might take years. Several of the great cathedrals of Europe literally took centuries to finish, and they are some of the most stunning examples of architecture of the period. And I legitimately worry that we’re letting life pass us by as we have our noses pressed against our screens.
How are we hurting the people who do it for a living if I can do the same thing by waiting for the Public Beta?
That's partially true. The feedback that Apple prioritizes is from the developers regardless of smaller numbers because they are not just reporting user facing issues, they are also providing detailed feedback with the underlying APIs that most users have absolutely no knowledge of. This is stuff they run into while testing the code internally either through unit testing or in the simulator/on device. I used to do a lot of iOS dev in my previous job and can submit more detailed feedback than the average public user because I have a better idea of how a certain views/processes work rather than just UI/UX issues. I can only imagine the type of feedback they get from the public betas... "This doesn't work. FIX IT." Probably a lot of those...
I don't work for any company that has a contract with Apple. I don't work for Apple either.
Nah, it’s entitlement.
Someone excited about the new features will sign up for the beta and wait until it’s available. Someone who feels they’re entitled to have it now… rather than wait… that’s entitlement. good.
if you are so desperate to get a dev beta then join/pay for the official program. if not just wait for public beta.
some people are so impatient and entitled. well done apple.
if you are so desperate to get a dev beta then join/pay for the official program. if not just wait for public beta.
some people are so impatient and entitled. well done apple.
Apple has to know that 10 more mirrors to that site will pop up immediately. Huge waste of money on legal fees…. In fact this probably made it worse…. There was one main site providing this service and Apple just brought attention to it…. Now all of the copycats will come out of the woodworks…. In the end the lawyers get richer
Apple doesn't want people that should be in their public beta in their developer beta. I can only imagine how many people in the public don't even submit feedback, and if they do, it's probably "This is broken! FIX IT!". That's not useful without any details. You can only get so much info from logs. True developers tend to be more detailed and useful in their feedback, especially when it comes to the underlying APIs of which the average person has absolutely no knowledge. Even if you do submit feedback, it's only going to be UI/UX related and maybe error dialogs you get. Unless you are a developer, you are not going to be able to say something is wrong with a specific API, some of which do affect the UI/UX that a user would see. Those types of issues are usually fixed by the time the next public beta is released. There's a reason why patience is truly a virtue.This year was the first time I used BetaProfiles. Normally I wait for the Public beta, but got anxious this year so gave it a go. I have had 0 issues and I also file bug reports with apple. I understand that it is a beta and their could and probably will be issued. This "why not just wait for the public beta" is great for those who want to run the beta but not file bugs, yes they can wait for the public beta. With that being said, most people running betas understand it is a beta and the risks that come along with it. Getting it a little earlier and reporting bugs can help apple work out the kinks quicker so the public beta (and eventual RC) is more stable. But I am sure apple will claim "inflation" is the cause and they need that $99 to pad the bottom line.
That could be it, too. A huge influx of folks to the Apple store to have their devices restored, mad because it means they may lose some data. Yes, new sites will pop up, but likely harder to find than “betaprofiles.com”
I suspect Craig Federighi has something to say about this whole “unauthorised dev beta” situation thanks to the controversy on stage manage on iPad. They claim they still “have lots more to show up”, but I doubt it. Nonetheless, they crackdown those big sites, because Craig and a bunch of other top rank employees in apple want to see fewer people criticising their WIP when they are not ready to release every feature they want just yet.
As such, I doubt saving $99 is the main goal here, more of a response from internal pressure. Apple prolly knew those sites exist for a very long time, but decide to ignore until now.
Either way, it is indeed a sad day for enthusiasts and I’ll have to either give up on beta testing entirely or find a dev friend for iOS beta profile somehow. Or, develop iOS app to justify the $99 cost. There’s no way it’s worth the price of $99 just to test out beta iOS iPadOS macOS like this.
As such, I doubt saving $99 is the main goal here, more of a response from internal pressure. Apple prolly knew those sites exist for a very long time, but decide to ignore until now.
Either way, it is indeed a sad day for enthusiasts and I’ll have to either give up on beta testing entirely or find a dev friend for iOS beta profile somehow. Or, develop iOS app to justify the $99 cost. There’s no way it’s worth the price of $99 just to test out beta iOS iPadOS macOS like this.
Or you could wait for the public betas which are, you know, FREE...