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10TB local would be great :p but not really an option with the iPhone, or an ultraportable.

Also notice that anything that is fetched from the remote server, is also stored locally for future used. Lesser used items get deleted when the disk is full.

I think your idea is great. I also think your idea is expensive. With ISP's oversubscribing bandwidth like it is going out of style in the US I just don't see something like this going over well. As long as you are using small items you would be okay, but as soon as you needed something large you are at the mercy of the throughput of the cloud to make accessing it seem tranparent.
 
mmmm...

For multi-touch technology you need to touch the screen.
On a laptop computer you can transform your keyboard to a screen to do that.
On a desktop computer you can do that as well! Your keyboard becomes a second screen (ultra-portable!) and you dock it in your iMac after use ...
 
mmmm...

For multi-touch technology you need to touch the screen.
On a laptop computer you can transform your keyboard to a screen to do that.
On a desktop computer you can do that as well! Your keyboard becomes a second screen (ultra-portable!) and you dock it in your iMac after use ...

Come again?
 
I don't know, probably "insert the laptop in hole" is more simple to explain than "connect this cable and this one", but I think it increases the chances to see the laptop landing on the table.
 
OK... I haven't bothered to read through all 5 pages of this thread, but...

I think you guys are missing a serious point. There is, acording to the patent application, NOTHING other than a display, wireless, some other AppleWireless maybe, a "docking station", and some wired ports. (with all the neccisary HW to make it all work).

There is NO harddrive, NO copy of Mac OS X... nothing like that.
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1) I'm always a little offended by people who say, "well, i didn't bother to read the stuff the rest of you guys are discussing, but i think i'm still qualified to jump in and join your conversation." Just a personal quirk of mine.

2) If you had read some of the prior discussion you'd have seen examples of docks that include hard drives and more--even a math co-processor in one (prior apple) product.

3) the absence of the mac os is a legitimate observation. But as has been noted (yeah, in the earlier parts of this long thread) apple's iMacs use the same chips as the macbooks, so it's reasonable to hope for an ultraportable that would have adequate processing power for an iMac-like desktop, without that dock or whatever we choose to call it having to have its own OS or cpu.
 
To me a good idea can be a thin client that works also as a docking station.

A monitor, starting cheaper than the actual ones, something like a 19" @ 1440x900, and just the hardware and software needed to make remote desktop.
 
So maybe Apple timed the filing of these patents so that they would be come public now:D


Perhaps. But they were filed in the middle of '06. Does the Patent Office have a set time before it releases? I was under the impression that the timing was dictated by volume.

Apple must hate having to file, and I'm sure they manipulate the system to an extent. As ever, we should bear in mind that the majority of patents never result in a shipping product and if they do, the gap between submission and shipping is usually longer than 8 months.
 
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Might be interesting if Apple could utilize this type of design for use with this dock. The monitor size may be too small for most though.
 
The problem I see with that design is that it appears to be rather thick in tablet mode.
 
The problem I see with that design is that it appears to be rather thick in tablet mode.

All such "convertibles" are. But most folks don't like trying to peck on a virtual keyboard as on a true tablet, so the only "successful" tablets to date have been of this type.
 
1) I'm always a little offended by people who say, "well, i didn't bother to read the stuff the rest of you guys are discussing, but i think i'm still qualified to jump in and join your conversation." Just a personal quirk of mine.

2) If you had read some of the prior discussion you'd have seen examples of docks that include hard drives and more--even a math co-processor in one (prior apple) product.

3) the absence of the mac os is a legitimate observation. But as has been noted (yeah, in the earlier parts of this long thread) apple's iMacs use the same chips as the macbooks, so it's reasonable to hope for an ultraportable that would have adequate processing power for an iMac-like desktop, without that dock or whatever we choose to call it having to have its own OS or cpu.


1) I'm very sorry. I usually read the entire conversation first (and rarely post) but I was a little pressed on time and wanted to post my opinion.

2) Right. I saw some of that. The point I'm making is the Apple's patent very obviously points out that it does not have a HD.

Not trying to start a large arguement :)
 
2) Right. I saw some of that. The point I'm making is the Apple's patent very obviously points out that it does not have a HD.
Well, even if the dock doesn't have a built-in hard drive, you could always plug an external drive in to one of the firewire ports on the dock. Granted it's not nearly as elegant, but it's what I'd do if the dock didn't have a built-in hard drive.
 
My Idea of a Dock

Heres something I whipped up real quick. It's my idea of this concept.
I would love to have something like this. Here are the specs:

22" 1920x1200 (or 1680x1050) LED-backlight LCD screen
(2) x 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM HDD connected via eSATA connection
DVD-RW (Blu-Ray RW?)
USB2.0, Fire 400, 800

iMacdoc.jpg


thoughts?
 
1) I'm very sorry. I usually read the entire conversation first (and rarely post) but I was a little pressed on time and wanted to post my opinion.

2) Right. I saw some of that. The point I'm making is the Apple's patent very obviously points out that it does not have a HD.

Not trying to start a large arguement :)

I understand your point. but not sure where they say it doesn't have a HD?

The claims around 13 details equipment of what is refered to as the dock.
Indeed in 13 they say Storage device. patents tend to be general. They also say that the dock contain hardware required transfer the graphics rendered by the computer to the screen, also to communicate between items in the dock.

Ok so none of that rules anything in or out.

although personally given they go in to a lot of detail about using short range wireless to do the communicating, i would suspect the dock would have it's own gpu maybe cpu and OS to co-ordinate communication and lower bandwidth needed.

It could go either way, i think they have been very deliberate about that.
 
Heres something I whipped up real quick. It's my idea of this concept.
I would love to have something like this. Here are the specs:

22" 1920x1200 (or 1680x1050) LED-backlight LCD screen
(2) x 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM HDD connected via eSATA connection
DVD-RW (Blu-Ray RW?)
USB2.0, Fire 400, 800

iMacdoc.jpg


thoughts?
i like the idea, however, if this dock is only applied to the subnotebook, maybe the use of a 10k rpm hard drive would be better to match with the speed of ssd

also, as much as id love to see blu-ray on this, at the moment, it would seem to expensive and it would be something that would most likely be introduced to the mac pro lineup(even imacs) before the portable system

being that this thing is just a peripheral, some people might be wary of spending a lot of money on something that isnt technically required

anyways, since i use my laptop in my room like a desktop(dock and what not) and the availability of downloading movies via itunes(dont really buy movies at b&m stores anymore) this would seem like a great idea to get me into the mac community
 
The REDTablet from VREO was a touchscreen that 'docked' into peripherals so it would turn into a desktop when at home.
 
I think that this is a good idea - i travel a lot and need a laptop, but this would enable me to have a desktop as well. We'll see if Apple actually puts something like this on the market though.
 
Posted this in another forum and thought it applied here as well.

Would someone please explain to me what the benefit of this monstrously large track pad is. I just don't get it. To me the idea of a keyboard width track pad is as antiquated as the trackball. It's time to move into the 21st century.

What I would envision for the Macbook Pro, is a redesigned case with a brushed black finish. Obvious upgrades to processsing power. And lastly a new trackpad design which is essentially a glass screen similar to the iphone screen. This new trackpad would have icons to each side to create shortcuts to most used programs and the icons would all be customizable. Essentially it would be a mini dock right at your fingertips. The glass screen would permit the multitouch capability along with some of the benefits of the Iphone experience.

Finally, the new Mactouch Pro, if that's what it is called, will create a whole new segment for Apple. It is not, and I repeat, is not, meant to replace the Macbook Pro line. Think about it. Everyone has been talking about a Ultra Mobile PC unit. Excuse the PC part. Not a not a mini notebook. This would completely fill the niche to which Apple has no product. If you look at the computer product line-up, they go from the Iphone, to the macbook, to the Macbook Pro line on up to the desktop units. I know the macbook is a small portable notebook, but it is not innovative and is not likely to create a buzz for Apple and their sales. A whole new segment for them will, just like the Iphone did last year.


Imagine some of the possibilities, and I refer to the following pictures.

Let says you are mainly a desktop user. You could have the 24" iMac and the MacTouch unit. This allows you to use the desktop at work, in the office, or at the home office. But then you can also pull out the MacTouch and spend the evening in the recliner without the bulk of a notebook. The MacTouch always is in sync with the iMac, so you always have your favorite bookmarks, email folders, contacts, and etc. The sync prevents having some info on one unit but not the other. Nothing more aggravating than not having access to the same info on each of your computers.

This is where the redesign of the iMac comes in. Why would the cost of the iMac have to be that much more. Basically you've added a large slot only to the case along with a few internal components. This is assuming there is room for this.

Imagine I have a iMac at home and it has the slot in the side. I had not yet purchased the MacTouch, but I sure would be tempted to consider it 6 months after I had purchased the iMac, especially if it is as simple as sliding the unit into the iMac, and it just works.

Next possibility - If I were to run a 17" MacBook Pro for the purposes of a desktop replacement or I run a Mac Pro. The docking system that would come with the MacTouch would allow me to do the same thing as the iMac as far as syncing the two, possibly via firewire. I can fully see me taking the 17" MBP on a business trip for major computing power at a customers location, but then just using the MacTouch in the hotel that night or sitting in the airport to check emails and web surf.

Another possibility, the MacTouch is just a standalone unit. Perhaps your teenager has one as their personal media player, web browser, email. Because it runs a full OS, it is a all in one unit that appeals to the younger crowd. I know my son who's a PSP, MP3, gadget kid would love to have this vs. a notebook.

Imagine it could become a interface for a Apple TV type of experience. Let's say it works via remote from your mantle to control all of your media, or actually is the remote interface for your Apple TV. It would be sweet to sit in the recliner and browse the internet while controlling your Apple TV at the same time. Refering to my iMac incentive to purchase the MacTouch later, would you consider purchasing the MacTouch later if you knew you could control your Apple TV with it? I don't know a whole lot about the Apple TV but it's a possibility.

Let me mention that I do have an Iphone and I know that it can check my email, web surf and etc., but the MacTouch unit would be able to do so much more and in a more user friendly way without the added bulk of a notebook or the constant scrolling in safari on the Iphone.

I think the main way to create sales is to create possibilities. A small unit that can interact with any of the hardware made by Apple would be a huge seller. Imagine the possibilies. All this being said, who knows what's to come. I hope were not all disappointed on the 15th.

Sorry for such a long post, but can you tell I really want one.
 

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winterspan said:
Heres something I whipped up real quick. It's my idea of this concept.
I would love to have something like this. Here are the specs:

22" 1920x1200 (or 1680x1050) LED-backlight LCD screen
(2) x 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM HDD connected via eSATA connection
DVD-RW (Blu-Ray RW?)
USB2.0, Fire 400, 800

thoughts?

Why such tiny HDD's? WHy not just a big ass 3.5" Drive, It would be so much more economic. The only place you see dual 2.5" drives is in Gaming laptops that NEED storage for some reason.
 
Heres something I whipped up real quick. It's my idea of this concept.
I would love to have something like this. Here are the specs:

22" 1920x1200 (or 1680x1050) LED-backlight LCD screen
(2) x 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM HDD connected via eSATA connection
DVD-RW (Blu-Ray RW?)
USB2.0, Fire 400, 800

iMacdoc.jpg


thoughts?

if you pay attention to the patent, the optical drive is located on the laptop
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/03/apple-patents-a-maxiumus-alike-keyboard-imac-macbook-dock/
that does not match the ultra portable rumor
also
- placement of alimentation plug does not seem right
- it is not easy/practical to load the laptop depending on your desk configuration
- what about scratch and general cover durability as you are sliding it and out?
 
Well, here's my setup at home, and I'm sure I'm not the only one...

I have a MacBook. I plug it into my 46" LCD TV. This is my main setup.

Sometimes I take my MacBook for bedtime viewing, or to gigs etc.

Whenever my MacBook is in its place, I have to plug the DVI, audio, USB cables all back in. This is a pain.

This is obviously what Apple are creating a solution to.

I would be happy with either of these 2 approaches from Apple:

• An induction-connected dock. You pop it on a holder/tray/mount. No connections. All your cables are connected to this dock.

• Their own line of large LCD TVs that the ultra-portable goes inside. The TV would also have the optical drive, large HDD etc.

Does this float for anyone else?

That would definitely do it for me. As the only person in my section with an OS X computer (a MacBook), I'm used to receiving envious stares -- except when I come in each morning and plug in the power cable, the DVI cable, the USB cable etc, while my colleagues just plonk their thinkpad or dell onto the dock.

It friggin' irritates me that we've lived with this situation for so long, so yeah, bring on the ultra (with 8hr battery life) and the dock. I'll snap it up in a second.
 
I guess I am naive, but do people actually sit around and spend their time creating pictures like this just for fun or is it possible this is a real prototype? These look a whole lot more realistic than the snapshots we've been seeing.

The slot in the external docking station would explain the option for the external optical drive as it has been reported and then just use the optical drive on the iMac when it is in that dock.

Click on the pics to enlarge.
 

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how much would a 12" ultra slim macbook that docks inside a 24" cinema display with 160GB HD and 2GB of RAM cost? if its below $2500 it would be one of the most popular computers on the market :eek:
 
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