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iPod touch Apple Cripples iPod Touch Calendar

IJ Reilly said:
I am also reading today that while you can add contacts to the Touch, it won't sync them back to the desktop computer. Another limitation!
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Total nonsense. The actual Guide that ships with the iPod Touch specifically states that the contacts can be synced between your iPod and your computer, no matter on which device you entered them.
 
owen-b said:
Total nonsense. The actual Guide that ships with the iPod Touch specifically states that the contacts can be synced between your iPod and your computer, no matter on which device you entered them.
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We could delete contacts (synched from the Mac) and add contacts to the iPod Touch but not sync contacts back to the Mac, nor add any calendar events (though it shows events synched from the Mac).
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http://www.macintouch.com/
 
IJ Reilly said:
The implication is that Apple believes their customers don't really know whether they want a phone or a PDA, so they need to be "pushed" to the iPhone if they want PDA functionality. (Since they both function as an iPod, that function factors out.) I am also reading today that while you can add contacts to the Touch, it won't sync them back to the desktop computer. Another limitation!

To me, this makes little marketing sense so I am groping for a technical one.
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Yes it makes little sense from a marketing perspective. I suppose it's possible that there was some programming issue...how much do I believe that:rolleyes:

Keep groping for that reason, I doubt you'll find a logical one. I think this really was an intentional cripple. I guess you'll have to wait for some hacks before you get yours. I know how you were looking forward to getting one:( (and I was going to use your review to base my own decision ;)).
 
pogwilson@ntlwo said:
I don't think Apple give a stuff what AT&T think about the iTouch. I'm certain that Apple are working on a new version of iCal for it's handheld OS X products that will properly integrate with Leopard's iCal. When this is ready Apple have a choice: they could release it as a software update (please), they could sell it as a software product, perhaps with a few other goodies (doubtful - who'd be willing to spend more on the thing?), or they could keep it back to package with iWork 09 (making this package more like Microsoft's Office). The real question for now is - will future iTouch/iPhone software upgrades work with the current hardware? The new iPod cassic software doesn't work with my current 80GB video iPod, so Apple seem quite happy to push people into buying new hardware.
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I agree completely with this. Look at how close it is being released with Leopard! The iPhone had to come with a completely functional Cal because it was being released at the start of Summer, months before Leopard. They couldn't leave that function off there for that long. It is about less than a month until Leopard comes out. It could be that once Leopard is all finished, they will have people making a Cal app for the iPod touch and iPhone that intergrates directly with it (as well as the current versions of Outlook).

Also, Apple could make some good money by making Widgets and Apps for the iPhone and iPod touch available on iTunes. Image, for like...10 or 20 bucks you might be able to buy the PDA package which comes with the complete iCal functionality, Notes, Google Maps, so on and so forth. That way, if people WANT it, they can buy it. If they just want a multitouch iPod then they don't have to!
 
owen-b said:
Well well well, looks like Apple are liars. I'm cancelling mine right now.
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It might be a bug. I'm not jumping to any conclusions.

CalBoy said:
Yes it makes little sense from a marketing perspective. I suppose it's possible that there was some programming issue...how much do I believe that:rolleyes:

Keep groping for that reason, I doubt you'll find a logical one. I think this really was an intentional cripple. I guess you'll have to wait for some hacks before you get yours. I know how you were looking forward to getting one:( (and I was going to use your review to base my own decision ;)).
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And they're going to have to be solid, reliable hacks. I'm not the bleeding-edge type.
 
What are we going to do if Leopard doesn't change iCal/calendaring, and the iPod touch and iPhone do not change? Even if a massive change were planned, why wouldn't they mirror the iPhone's half-baked (if you can call it that) calendaring on the iPod touch? This hopeful logic doesn't make much sense...

I hate that Apple did this. They were my one hope. :(
 
I love how this thread isn't being taken seriously, and when it is being taken seriously, it's talking about CONTACTS instead of the CALENDAR.

This is important to some of us, enough to do things like start letter-writing campaigns, complain on Apple message boards, send feedback via email, write petitions, ask for people to hack it, etc.
 
wongulous said:
I love how this thread isn't being taken seriously, and when it is being taken seriously, it's talking about CONTACTS instead of the CALENDAR.

This is important to some of us, enough to do things like start letter-writing campaigns, complain on Apple message boards, send feedback via email, write petitions, ask for people to hack it, etc.
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I'm in the same boat. This is literally a make or break feature for me. Just one simple '+' button...

P-Worm
 
Cry me a river. Build a bridge. Get over it.

They'll definately put it in eventually.
 
P-Worm said:
I'm in the same boat. This is literally a make or break feature for me. Just one simple '+' button...

P-Worm
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Thanks for posting in agreement and not being a dismissive jerk. This feature is huge to a lot of students, business people, busy people, freelancers, people who can't use AT&T, etc. Have you contacted Apple at all?

I wrote a letter to sjobs@apple.com/sjobs@mac.com, posted to the Apple "feedback" page at apple.com/feedback (though there wasn't an iPod touch option in the feedback menu), and I have commented on a couple of blogs of people involved with the Touch hacking to request this get looked at. What else can we do?
 
so has anyone hacked this yet? I would even pay like someone said via iTunes for features... Come one apple!
 
i played for a while with the ipod touch at the apple store and i love it. i would buy it immediately if it would allow me:

to take and sync notes to the mac
add appointments to ical and sync it to .mac and my mac at home
add contacts and sync them to .mac and my home mac
store and read pdf files
store and read txt files

as long as i don't get those features i won't buy it. i'm thinking (independently) of buying an iphone anyway. but i like to have a ipod only device like the touch as well. because i think the phone is mainly a phone and i don't want to drain the battery while i'm in the gym, surf the web or read pdf's while waiting.

with apple not really supporting productivity i can't really justify the (large) expense. just for music and videos i could get a nano for half the money.
 
You can actually store and read PDF files on a Touch through this nifty method-

http://www.insanelygreattees.com/news/?p=51

It works great with short to medium length files, I haven't tried Moby Dick or anything like that.

I imagine Notes synchronization will be coming to the iPhone too. If so, then everything on your list is basically covered, IF ONLY Apple would un-gimp the iPod Touch.

I also want to be able to view tasks (editing would be great but not as necessary), but it's not even on the iPhone yet.

(Do the other iPods display iCal tasks, or is it events only?)
 
I really want them to fix Calender for adding events. 48 hours or so with this thing and I have wanted to do it half a dozen times. Very annoying.
 
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i0Nic said:
This is terrible, can't believe Apple would intentionally cripple the device like this. Now more than ever we'll have to rely on hackers to improve the functionality of the device, hopefully the hacks won't get wiped after each itunes update.
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802.11 n anyone?
 
Laurent said:
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802.11 n anyone?
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the only logical reason to put 802.11n in would be so people don't have to set their networks to be compatible with 802.11g devices. It's not like you'll notice a difference in browsing speeds on an n network, and you're not doing file transfers…
 
Apple made a big mistake...the fact that the iPod touch doesn't have a phone is a big enough feature that's missing - and it's a feature alone that will have people spending more money on it.

What they should do to the iPhone is have a software update that gives you the ability to add programs (not hacked or anything), and Apple should supply programs for free on the internet (very similar to widgets). Also, a mobile version of pages, keynote, and numbers, would be awesome (and people would of course be able to use MS Word,Excel, ppt, also). They should allow users to store stuff on the device (PDF files, word docs, etc.) This would be gold. Basically I'm asking for a PDA...haha. But it's completely doable with the hardware they have now. They could easily charge 200$ more for this and people would buy it, no doubt.
The iPod touch should have all of the same as the iPhone (notes, stocks, etc, included), just with no phone. And they could charge more for it, too.

Just my $0.02.
 
I would have preferred the ability to add events over contacts. It makes more sense too - the touch isn't a phone but you get a full feature that completely relies on a phone.
 
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