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Wow. Denial much, dude? Hell, Apple slashed the orders of iPhone X and still managed to spin it "the number one selling iPhone every week since launch". lmao While providing usual Apple secrecy of no breakdowns (like their "Others" categories for all sales in different cats)... & you'll happily spoon it up. Time will tell if you're correct. Using logic, I don't see it happening.

Logic shows us the iPhone X was their best selling iPhone (so does the math). The only people in denial are those who continue to believe (or hope) that the X is doing poorly (it isn't).
 
So these critics want to play out the whole Apple Watch cycle game again?

When will they learn? One bets against Apple to their own detriment.
 
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The price doesn’t so much bother me. It’s only 50 more than the Bose Revolve+ but packed with way more active electronics. The rub for me is that a network-connected speaker is useless in my office, but a Bluetooth speaker would work fine. Apple needs to open up the Bluetooth protocol.
 
Being an Apple device, there will be Apple apps for tinkering with the HomePod as well as 3rd party apps for playing with and exploiting the wide array of uses for the HomePod.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208241

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208341

Ever since iOS7, I've found Apple iOS apps to be pretty unintuitive, unattractive, and just much less fun to play with. As a result, it's soured my enthusiasm for engaging with my iPhone as much as before (an iPhone that's still better than Android's awful Material Design UI, for good or worse there...) and investing in more Apple-centric hardware. Maybe too few others feel that way, or else Apple would have woken up by now after 4 years of all the white-out less intuitive UI iOS software, but when Apple returns to an iOS & software that returns the focus onto intuitive interaction instead of unecessarily made-up UI cues based on randomness and minimalist fashion, I'll be much more inclined to break out my wallet more often. I can't be alone in feeling that way. That's all I meant. :)

I would make it fun by returning to using time-tested intuitive UI cues that look like a real designer put some thought into things, instead of focusing on this imagined need to have the content blend into the background by making everything a white-washed light grey with non-button text for actionable cues so as to not distract the user (gag) but which actually distract the user by often being confusing and slowing down the productive process.

I know what people are complaining about, I was just asking about a connection to the HomePod.

Steve changed the world.

Steve disrupted and reinvented the desktop. Steve disrupted and reinvented the music industry. Steve disrupted and reinvented mobile.

Tim... Sells higher margin iterations of Steve's ideas while competitors outdo him in every single area.

Tim sits on his laurels selling 4 year old computers at new prices, fielding also-ran products into crowded spaces where others are doing it better.

Steve would never have stood for it, rightly or wrongly.

Good for Apple for getting great margins. I miss the Apple of my youth... An exciting, irreverent Apple that did unbelievable new things.

Now they innovate in the areas of watch straps and dongles and rehashing competitors ideas.

Are we talking about the same Steve Jobs that didn’t want an App Store on the iPhone, launched the iPod with FireWire on Mac only, and didn’t want iTunes to be on Windows? If he had his way, the iPod would have bombed and the iPhone would be irrelevant.

And if you can’t find anything great today, you’re not looking.
 
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Being an Apple device, there will be Apple apps for tinkering with the HomePod as well as 3rd party apps for playing with and exploiting the wide array of uses for the HomePod.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208241

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208341

Ever since iOS7, I've found Apple iOS apps to be pretty unintuitive, unattractive, and just much less fun to play with. As a result, it's soured my enthusiasm for engaging with my iPhone as much as before (an iPhone that's still better than Android's awful Material Design UI, for good or worse there...) and investing in more Apple-centric hardware. Maybe too few others feel that way, or else Apple would have woken up by now after 4 years of all the white-out less intuitive UI iOS software, but when Apple returns to an iOS & software that returns the focus onto intuitive interaction instead of unecessarily made-up UI cues based on randomness and minimalist fashion, I'll be much more inclined to break out my wallet more often. I can't be alone in feeling that way. That's all I meant. :)

I would make it fun by returning to using time-tested intuitive UI cues that look like a real designer put some thought into things, instead of focusing on this imagined need to have the content blend into the background by making everything a white-washed light grey with non-button text for actionable cues so as to not distract the user (gag) but which actually distract the user by often being confusing and slowing down the productive process.

You're right. When they switched UI in IOS7 and Mavericks+, they threw Steve's baby out with the bathwater - his baby being user experience. For instance, in the old days, you'd buy an iMac and get a cool little animated introduction with awesome music. It felt special. Now, you get a......grey screen with black text. Just one small example.

They also overreacted to the skeumorphism "scare." Yes, green felt and leather stitching was maybe a little much, but they also completely shunned important design language and visual hierarchy in shadows, shade, z space. In my opinion, it was pretty ignorant.
 
I don’t get it. I love apple products, but I just don’t get the HomePod. I have a pioneer soundbar connected to my Apple TV, I order Siri through my Apple Watch, AirPods or remote and the pioneer gives me great sound. If want mobile sound, I get my little UE and that’s that. HomePods are just a bait for your money.
 
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Give me AirPlay 2 already and I'll gladly buy another. Very happy with our first one so far. It has changed up how we use our smart home already, and it's easy to see how much more useful it can become with updates.
 
Agreed, I really wanted to use it as a soundbar but manually reconnecting it all the time suuuucks, and the absolutely abysmal 5 second audio delay that makes it completely useless for games or apps - it's pretty irritating since the media player I use has navigation clicks. Pausing delays and starting playback delays are also pretty annoying.
That's all due to AirPlay 1 (which has not improved much since being introduced in 2004 as AirTunes). The 2 second delay is a hard coded buffer. AP2 will all but eliminate any lag.
 
I wouldn't take one for free, truthfully.

Amazon kills it, sorry, the Show and Spot are now next level with the screens, super helpful. Alexa show me the front door, boom, up comes Ring. Alexa, show me pictures of Nonni, boom, slide show of Nonni shots. Alexa show me all albums from Jules and the Polar Bears, Boom, on-screen cover art. Oh Ya, Alexa, play Hipster barbeque... everywhere, now the music is pouring out of our houseful of Echo's, Dot's, Shows, and Spots all in sync, and can be controlled from any of them.
Apple, my love is fading.
 
Is this like the fake order cuts for iPhone? Wake me up when Apple says something, lowers the price unexpectedly, or discontinues the product.

Patience, grasshopper. The Watch took some time to gain traction too.
 
It’s nice inflammatory click-bait language—typical of Bloomberg—but the purported “piling up” of inventory at Apple stores doesn’t ring true.

Apple doesn’t stuff the Apple retail store channel. They order as needed.

The article discredits itself, but it may be true it isn’t selling as well as Apple had hoped. Of course, it may be selling better than Apple expected. We’ll never know, and I don’t think Bloomberg knows either.
Don’t come in here with rational thoughts.

It’s already considered dead on Macrumors and all they needed was some fake news to “confirm” it.

More likely that it’s doing pretty well as Apple just announced they ADDED 2M Apple Music subscribers in less than a month. Could,it possibly be HomePod related?
 
I know what people are complaining about, I was just asking about a connection to the HomePod.



Are we talking about the same Steve Jobs that didn’t want an App Store on the iPhone, launched the iPod with FireWire on Mac only, and didn’t want iTunes to be on Windows? If he had his way, the iPod would have bombed and the iPhone would be irrelevant.

And if you can’t find anything great today, you’re not looking.
same guy.

Flawed but brilliant.

Tim is an administrator .. Better at detail, better at execution, sure. But without the needed genius or vision.

Which is why the company has been on pause, recycling and refining but not making the next great leap.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: where's the App Store for HomePod? Where is the SDK? Where is the ecosystem? HomePod will be interesting the day you can download Duolingo, or a text adventure app... or whatever an army of independent developers can come up with.

Until then, it's like that 1st-gen iPhone: the functions it ships with are the only ones you get. And unlike the iPhone, it isn't even close to being the first in this space.

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Steve changed the world.

Steve disrupted and reinvented the desktop. Steve disrupted and reinvented the music industry. Steve disrupted and reinvented mobile.

Tim... Sells higher margin iterations of Steve's ideas while competitors outdo him in every single area.

Tim sits on his laurels selling 4 year old computers at new prices, fielding also-ran products into crowded spaces where others are doing it better.

Steve would never have stood for it, rightly or wrongly.

Good for Apple for getting great margins. I miss the Apple of my youth... An exciting, irreverent Apple that did unbelievable new things.

Now they innovate in the areas of watch straps and dongles and rehashing competitors ideas.
Apple has become a boutique seller of well-crafted hardware, software and services sold at a premium. It's fine, it's good stuff, and I keep buying and using it -- but the days of being actually revolutionary seem to be fading fast.
 
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