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What's the point of all this? Well, the $150 price difference that you're fixated on is only part of the story, and not even the most important part. You're looking at it from a pure parts perspective, which is your prerogative, but just isn't germane to the discussion.

I'm fixated on this because of the statement in the original article saying "When flash storage prices drop, Apple often passes those savings on to consumers". That's the only reason I commented, because if this were true I don't see how the apple pricing scheme for their phones backs this up. I get all that goes into bringing a product to market, I work in the R&D group for my company and its what I do all day every day. So looking at the big picture, I get why they price things how they do. I just don't buy that apple "often" passes their flash storage price savings onto their consumers when that's clearly not what's happening.
 
Check the iPad forums for iPad irresponsiveness. MR also had a thread here too. All 8 of the iPads, iPad Pros and the Mini 5 I bought since 2017 came up with it.

I've owned 5 iPads since the early days and never had a problem. My 12.9 iPad Pro is the 1st generation and works flawlessly.
 
I'm fixated on this because of the statement in the original article saying "When flash storage prices drop, Apple often passes those savings on to consumers". That's the only reason I commented, because if this were true I don't see how the apple pricing scheme for their phones backs this up. I get all that goes into bringing a product to market, I work in the R&D group for my company and its what I do all day every day. So looking at the big picture, I get why they price things how they do. I just don't buy that apple "often" passes their flash storage price savings onto their consumers when that's clearly not what's happening.

Without apologizing for Apple, I do wonder how their contracts work for the volume purchases of NAND flash considering the metric crap ton that they buy. Everyone assumes that because of their rather dogged contract negotiating methods, that they get a grand deal. However, we all know there are poison pills, caveats and contract lengths that must be observed. The thing is, they recently reduced the BTO costs on the 1TB, 2TB and 4TB options on every one of the Macs in the lineup, which made their costs a little more palatable. It's no doubt they are trying to carry through with high margins on everything they can. I assume that they have shifted to a new contract price for the NAND specific to the iPhone and the iPad, and so they are passing those savings on while maintaining their current margin targets, at least in the iPad's case. This doesn't affect the iPhone as they don't offer a 1TB model...yet. Theoretically, if Apple did decide to offer a 1TB version, the price delta would now be an extra $200 over the 512GB and not $400, which is enticing for those who actually need that amount of storage.

"Often" in Apple parlance is a nice marketing term, roughly once every 2-3 years under Jobs and every 5-7 years under Tim Cook, but most users will take the savings if they can get it. I don't prostrate myself to Tim Apple and say thank you oh wise one, but the savings are nice when they happen. At the same time, I also opted not to purchase an iPhone XS or XS Max as I simply refuse to pay that much for a mobile phone until I can actually justify it. I was headed into year four with my 6s Plus when we switched carriers and gave my iPhone to my father-in-law last year. I chose the XR and I have really enjoyed it so far. Frankly, my wife deserves, needs and can justify the 11 Pro Max more than I can as she is a much better photographer than I will ever be. However, she won't ever spend that money either and I'll have to go out on a limb and buy one when her XR is paid off.

On the flip side, she won't ever need a Mac or even a better iPad than the 2017 12.9-inch iPP w/512GB she has now, not for a long time.

Take care.
 
Yeah, a $499 iPhone 11 makes no sense. Why not just say it should be $399...or $299? I mean, if we are basing opinions on nothing, let’s go lower.


Was talking about the Pros. I personally think the regular 11 is priced exactly where it should be. Very surprised Apple got its pricing right on it.

One of the bad parts on the Pros is they don’t offer the 128gb option. Apple knows that’s what most people would buy. Now they have to get the 256 and spend even more money.

They pulled the same crap by discontinuing the Series 4 and leaving the 3. Now people who would have bought the 4 will buy the 5 because the 3 is already two years old.
 
I've owned 5 iPads since the early days and never had a problem. My 12.9 iPad Pro is the 1st generation and works flawlessly.

I've owned about the same 5 iPads. And 3 out of 5 (all Pros, all made after 2013) demonstrated various problems that in the end were declined warranty. I exchanged my iPhones 3 or 4 times due to hardware failures and Apple's Watch was so bad I successfully got rid of it. MacBook Pro that I bought immediately had keyboard problems (returned). MacBook Air developed white point on screen after 2 years.
Am I just an unlucky person? I don't think so after reading forums here and talking to friends. I think Apple's quality drastically went down after around 2013.

P.S. I live in California very close to Cupertino so in theory the support here should be AAA+. In reality it's not.
 
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I've owned about the same 5 iPads. And 3 out of 5 (all Pros, all made after 2013) demonstrated various problems that in the end were declined warranty. I exchanged my iPhones 3 or 4 times due to hardware failures and Apple's Watch was so bad I successfully got rid of it. MacBook Pro that I bought immediately had keyboard problems (returned). MacBook Air developed white point on screen after 2 years.
Am I just an unlucky person? I don't think so after reading forums here and talking to friends. I think Apple's quality drastically went down after around 2013.

P.S. I live in California very close to Cupertino so in theory the support here should be AAA+. In reality it's not.

I'm sorry to hear about all that hassle. That is very disappointing for such expensive products. My Apple Watch acts up sometimes but other than that, no issues.
 
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