Apple Deal Responsible for Google's Dominance in Search, Says Microsoft CEO

[coffeemilktea]

I think part of the reason why Google is so dominant is because Bing just historically isn't very good. 😅

(it still isn't very good today, though the AI integration makes it less terrible... sort of...?)

 

[Mcsnee]

Bing didn't come out until six years after Safari and two years after the iPhone, and more than ten years after Google. The problem isn't Apple; the problem is that Microsoft was woefully late to the party and for once couldn't use its market share to beat the competition.

If Microsoft's argument were correct, Apple Maps would be crushing Google Maps. It isn't.

 

[klasma]

When does their current deal end anyways?

It’s not public. It may be indefinite with a termination clause.

 

[The Cappy]

More so of a convenience that google is the default iOS search engine. We’ve ALL been going to google since before the iPhone. It’s just the superior, more mature search engine. We want it to produce results, fast. If google keeps winning at that, then we will all go for it. Bing is inferior, so we won’t gravitate towards it. We’d all change our defaults if it wasn’t google.

Except that if it was just a convenience, why did Google pay so much to be default

 

[paul4339]

Microsoft has a dominance in the desktop market, yet it can’t stop people from switching the default to Google on its own platform… why is it blaming Apple who only holds less than 30% of the mobile market..
Maybe focus on getting people to use Bing on Windows first.

 

[klasma]

Bring back Altavista!

HotBot was much better.

 

[mthomas184]

Laughable. Google was dominant long before 2007. Maybe Bing would’ve had more mainstream success if the Windows Phone OS took off, but I think we all know how that went.

Ah yes, the good ol iPhone funeral 🤣

 

[compwiz1202]

It also helps when you produce a really good comprehensive search engine.

Yea I only like Bing for quick things like tracking or movies when it pops up right on the search page

 

[Mr. Dee]

I intentionally type in google.com even when its the default home page in Safari, thats how addicted I am to Google.

 

[bousozoku]

But... why do those food companies pay extra to put their food at the head of the aisle?

Hmmm?

At least, you spelled "aisle" correctly.

Promotion is just what it is. At least, promotions in stores don't come with trackers.

Every company can put their food at the head of the aisle, to be noticed. Stores do take a small cut of that. I only use Google when I can't find anything through DuckDuckGo, but imagine all of the people who don't know to look elsewhere, who pick up the first thing that they see.

 

[Havoc035]

Nadella’s testimony was generally very balanced and fair. Wonder where this case will be going.

 

[klasma]

"You get up in the morning, you brush your teeth, and you search on Google," said Nadella

Ummm - I don’t think so.

Yeah, I only get up at noon.

 

[klasma]

I quit google search when my wife had advertizements about my hobbies show up in her facebook feeds. Google has way too much tracking of each user on the same network.
But google and facebook work together too.

That’s probably Meta tracking, not Google tracking. You know, whenever you visit a site with a Facebook icon.

 

[MysteriousStain]

Google is paying Apple to not compete and produce/buy its own search engine.

 

[KanosWRX]

Lol, of course MS is getting all over this, they want to push their crap search engine. And I am sorry, it is 10x easier to switch search engines on an iPhone or Android then MS imo. Also MS, when I can I remove all the proprietary bloat you have been forcing on us in Windows, aka One Drive, Office, Bing, Cortana (although thats dead now).. They need to practice what they are preaching before I listen to their CEO for another minute.

 

[swiftapplefan]

Whoa, what’s up with all these search engine talk in such a small amount of time…

 

[Mrkevinfinnerty]

I quit google search when my wife had advertizements about my hobbies show up in her facebook feeds. Google has way too much tracking of each user on the same network.
But google and facebook work together too.

Tell us more. Were they 'exotic' ?

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I don’t see a problem here. I would change to google if it wasn’t default because even back in day it was better than alternatives.

 

[KanosWRX]

Isn't this the same company that makes Edge the default browser on Windows? Oops.

And Bing the default search, and all the other defaults they have ingrained into the OS.. the government told them 20 years ago not to bundle IE.. so they changed it to Edge and now bundle that lol, and all their other bloat. Pretty sure the last time I checked, there was no option to pick my default search service in Windows during setup.

 

[klasma]

Let’s say you buy a new iPhone.

You set it up and open Safari for the first time.

If Safari asked you what search engine you would like to make your default and gave you a list of 5-6 different engines with Google being at the bottom, would it be within reason that a good majority of people will go down the list and pick Google?

Yes, but many unsavvy users (like, say, my parents) would also not even understand the question and tap on the first thing that looks like it’ll let them do what they actually want to do, and that would reduce Google search’s market share a little bit.

The fun thing to do would be to not ask the user and instead just select one search engine at random.

 

[Macuserosu]

So how is this any different then Edge being the default on my Windows computer’s with Bing being the default search engine?

That’s okay on a computer but not a tablet or phone?

 

[Cameront9]

This is a weird argument. google was well-entrenched in people’s lives before the iPhone came out.

 

[cbaca51]

I mean would Microsoft be saying this if their search engine was the default?

 

[deckard666]

tim cook needs to be jailed, along with other top apple executives

What ? And presumably Tesla , Amazon and Nintendo too?

and Anyone who recolours old black and white movies too….

 

[LV426]

I prefer using DuckDuckGo for searching, but I still use Google to find where a movie is streaming.

I use Justwatch Streaming Guide.