It’s not about promise but about being fairly sure this is an arbitrary restriction given that we know the A12X/Z can handle virtual memory (given the dev kits existence) and the existence of shift screen … we can justifiably complain about apples decisions that look greedy… Apple advertises the fact that they support devices for longer so limiting the new features to only the newest and most expensive products goes against that message.
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Apple Debuts App Windows, Full External Display Support, and More for M1 iPads
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What’s crazy is that not long ago… 133MHz, 200Mhz, 433Mhz etc GPU-less (in the modern sense, they were mostly 2D drawing accelerators until voodoo and team came full force) could very well handle all sorts of floating windows combinations in windows 95, 98, xp, etc…
Granted, it wasn’t the HDR bright color accurate densely packed pixels with all sorts of fancy glaze and blue effects… but really?
These devices are orders and orders of magnitude faster in all sorts of ways: from the cpu, to the GPU, to internal random DACs handling thousands of things, memory read/write speeds, etc etc etc…
So what if the memory swapping will slower, or it can handle less at the same time… maybe don’t make it 8 apps at the same time then, make it 4.
I’m sure I’m simplifying and missing something key though, makes no sense to not give it to customers with still somewhat powerful enough A12+ chips.
I think this iOS move is probably setting the scene for MacOS apps like FCP on the iPad with M native, but I think it’s likely that they would be limited to external screen only or something along those lines.
You could have FCP running in a window on an external display, but limited to the iPads that can handle it, which means at that price point you’re not eating into potential MacBook sales.
You could have FCP running in a window on an external display, but limited to the iPads that can handle it, which means at that price point you’re not eating into potential MacBook sales.
You are getting the new OS, gaining many under the hood improvements, and are not losing any features. So how exactly are they not supporting your device?
Count me as another that is pissed off the flag ship feature of the new iPadOS isn't available for the top of the line iPad that came out just 2 years ago. That's a ridiculous move.
Poor choice of words on my part, however the point stands that this is not about UX but is about encouraging new sales. We KNOW that the A12 class chips can run a full macOS environment without any restrictions (the apple silicon Mac existed) and as such it should be possible for at least the A12 class iPads to support fullscreen external displays (even if they don’t get stage managers).
The full screen monitor support looks promising, I hope it gets enabled for my iPad mini. If not, I guess I’ll wait for the M1 iPad mini. I like the mini forum factor, don’t want a 10” iPad. If I need a bigger screen I’ll use my laptop, which I have found more productive for me lately anyways. iPad OS just has too many limitations, though Stage Manager could have some potential, hope the side icons can be hidden.
Welcome to how all of us iPad 3 owners felt 6 months later with a sudden "new iPad (4th gen)". Ultimate face-smack. "Up yours. Sincerely, Apple."
Man I must have missed the part during the presentation where they said only M1-equipped iPads can run all these features and it kinda sucks because surely an A12X/Z could as well. The 2018 and 2020 iPad Pros are still pretty powerful and it's a shame they're being cut out like this.
I am due for an upgrade in November on my iPad line and while I've had aspirations of going all out and getting an M1 iPad Pro with 16GB RAM and a 1TB SSD I might decide to hold off because I haven't been using my iPad much since I've fallen in love with my M1 Air and I think I'd rather spend money on an M2 Air over an iPad even though I'm sure the M1 iPads are great.
I am due for an upgrade in November on my iPad line and while I've had aspirations of going all out and getting an M1 iPad Pro with 16GB RAM and a 1TB SSD I might decide to hold off because I haven't been using my iPad much since I've fallen in love with my M1 Air and I think I'd rather spend money on an M2 Air over an iPad even though I'm sure the M1 iPads are great.
You damn well know what Apple meant when they said that, don't play dumb.
Good choice. Macs generally get all the new features for at least five years or so, apparently you now have to get a new iPad every two years if you want OS improvements.
I’m guessing you weren’t around when the Apple Silicon systems were getting features that Intel systems didn’t have.
Computers have been using external displays since 1973. This is definitely a ****** move. No reason why the lineup can’t at least properly support an dual screens even without this centre stage crap.
Hence my use of the word "generally". Any time Apple changes processor architecture, software support definitely suffers. This is probably the last time they change architecture though, seeing as it's theirs.
After more than 20 years, we finally see the realization of the X-everywhere vision.
Remember this? Except that Microsoft never got it to work.
Finally we have continuity on macOS and iPadOS showing how it is done.
Finally we have continuity on macOS and iPadOS showing how it is done.
I suspect it has something to do with Virtual Memory support. Previously running virtual memory stores on SSD was a recipe for premature death for the flash devices. I suppose with all the real-world experience on macOS equipped with flash-only storage, we've come to the point where Apple is confident of being able to run a VM backing store with the on-device flash without killing it so quickly. In addition, the performance of the M1 VMU has something to do with it as well.
