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If there are only two robots, in Texas and the Netherlands, wouldn't the enormous footprint of shipping hundreds of millions of iPhones from all around the world to these two locations; negate any environmental benefits of recycling the phones in the first place?

Where does it say that hundreds of millions of phones are being shipped to these two facilities?
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while this looks great, 200/hr times two locations is nothing but lip stick on pig considering the number of abandoned iPhones.

35 million recycled phones a year is nothing? Hmmmmm okay.
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Don’t fool yourself, it is all about optics as a previous poster mentioned. Saying otherwise is naive. Better to just enjoy apples great products and stay away from the kool aid.

Yes let's all instead believe the anonymous internet poster who lacks any facts to support his position.
 
Anyone else have anxiety when they saw this story?
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The sad thing is that most people just toss their phone in the waste bin.

Really? I doubt that. Used iPhones have a high cash value. Many carriers offer trade in deals or require the phone be given back depending on the plan. Even with very old iPhones, I doubt they are just tossed in the trash.
 
Movie-voice:

Daisy knew everything that Liam knew. At a rate of 200 iPhone devices per hour, she built upon that knowledge. She could recover materials that traditional recyclers couldn't, and they were appalled. With their livelihood on the line, they gathered in front of Apple's robot, hacksaws and jackhammers in hand. But Daisy expected this and was ready for them...

Another movie voice:

"I don't know who you are. I do know what you want. I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired during my very short career. If you recycle now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you."
 
If there are only two robots, in Texas and the Netherlands, wouldn't the enormous footprint of shipping hundreds of millions of iPhones from all around the world to these two locations; negate any environmental benefits of recycling the phones in the first place?
Don’t forget about mining, processing, and fabricating new raw materials. That takes a huge amount of energy.
 
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If there are only two robots, in Texas and the Netherlands, wouldn't the enormous footprint of shipping hundreds of millions of iPhones from all around the world to these two locations; negate any environmental benefits of recycling the phones in the first place?

I bet you are super fun at parties... :rolleyes:
 
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If there are only two robots, in Texas and the Netherlands, wouldn't the enormous footprint of shipping hundreds of millions of iPhones from all around the world to these two locations; negate any environmental benefits of recycling the phones in the first place?

Depends on the value of the metals and other materials contained within those phones, doesn't it? You can fit a lot of iPhones in a container, and shipping a container is pretty cheap. The shipping cost per phone is probably negligible compared to the value derived from properly disassembling the phone.
 
If there are only two robots, in Texas and the Netherlands, wouldn't the enormous footprint of shipping hundreds of millions of iPhones from all around the world to these two locations; negate any environmental benefits of recycling the phones in the first place?

Yes any bad thing completely, and perfectly cancels out any good thing. /s

FYI, one robot can process 3.5 million phones per year. That's only enough to fill just 7 shipping containers. If they didn't recycle, the raw materials would still need to be shipped from the mines, so some number close to 7 shipping containers, would still be on the move between multiple locations.
 
Apple is so awesome green. Tim really got this. Imagine, if you break the display of an iPhone or lets say, a Mac Pro, you don't have to throw it away, you can avoid it to end up in landfill. You get the necessary parts from Apple to repair and reuse it! Thats awesome!
 
It is a real shame when Apple designs commodity products that are so short lived they have to develop robots to take them apart before they go into the landfill.

The sad thing is that most people just toss their phone in the waste bin. So, while this looks great, 200/hr times two locations is nothing but lip stick on pig considering the number of abandoned iPhones.

Now that no one needs a new iPhone every year how about making the battery replaceable so an iPhone can last 5 or 10 years. After all a phone is a phone and we did not start throwing away phones every year until the iPhone was released. Up till then, my land line phone was so old I can't remember when I got it.

While Apple's iPhones are great devices, that fact that they are designed to be thrown away really tears down Apple's image as a green company. The reality is that Apple's design decisions are about cost, not green, but man they spend so much money that their followers (sheep) really can't see the forest for the trees.
they will do whatever's possible to show them in a better light. this is nothing else than an attempt to convince people how great and environmental friendly they are. if they are really serious about that they would introduce it without wrapping it into their typical BS PR talk
 
Apple sold approx 217 million phones in 2017
Almost 600,000 per day.

That's 25,000 a hour (24 hours a day)

And this robot can (best case) take apart 200 per hour.

So what happens to the other 24,800 each hour?
 
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Where does it say that hundreds of millions of phones are being shipped to these two facilities?
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35 million recycled phones a year is nothing? Hmmmmm okay.
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Yes let's all instead believe the anonymous internet poster who lacks any facts to support his position.
3.5 million but yes, definitely a good thing. I'm sure more will be being built too as they learn more and more
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Apple sold approx 217 million phones in 2017
Almost 600,000 per day.

That's 25,000 a hour (24 hours a day)

And this robot can (best case) take apart 200 per hour.

So what happens to the other 24,800 each hour?
What happened to them for the last 10 years? Can't we be happy that progress is being made rather than being angry something didn't go from almost 0% - 100% overnight?
 
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3.5 million but yes, definitely a good thing. I'm sure more will be being built too as they learn more and more
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What happened to them for the last 10 years? Can't we be happy that progress is being made rather than being angry something didn't go from almost 0% - 100% overnight?

It's just some silly PR stunt as usual.
Like an important person on camera telling you how he's not using coal on his fire at home and showing you the benefit, meanwhile round the corner, with no camera's and no one interested you have a coal fired power station churning out fumes a million times more each minute.
But in the public's eyes this guy is all they see,

It's good to re-use stuff, but really we should be repairing.
It's companies like Apple who are causing all the problem that they are trying to look good in saying how they are helping, when it's their main plan to be as anti making things last as possible to earn more money.
 
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Apple sold approx 217 million phones in 2017
Almost 600,000 per day.

That's 25,000 a hour (24 hours a day)

And this robot can (best case) take apart 200 per hour.

So what happens to the other 24,800 each hour?

My guess is that only a few % Max of people will send or trade in their iPhones to Apple, most get better deals=$ somewhere else so I think *3.5 Million isn't bad at all.


*3.5 Million Maximum per year 24/7/365 but even robots have downtime for maintenance and other reasons like Holidays for people which support the robots like feeding them the iPhones so it's a bit less than 3.5 million.
 
My guess is that only a few % Max of people will send or trade in their iPhones to Apple, most get better deals=$ somewhere else so I think *3.5 Million isn't bad at all.


*3.5 Million Maximum per year 24/7/365 but even robots have downtime for maintenance and other reasons like Holidays for people which support the robots like feeding them the iPhones so it's a bit less than 3.5 million.

Indeed but phones cant vanish, if Apple keep making this many every year, then the same amount will have to come out the "other side" so to speak, be that 1 year or more later.
Every single phone, will have an end of life, so perhaps 99.5% are just scrapped on a tip?
 
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