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Apple Decided Not to Buy Reese Witherspoon's 'Hello Sunshine' Media Company
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Apple bought Beats seven years ago to integrate their streaming services and turn that into Apple Music.
On top of that they continue to sell a ton of Beats and will likely benefit from the synergies in R&D as well.
They knew what they were doing all along and needed no saving.
Apple would kill it’s own service before selling it to Netflix
This is part of the problem though of gaining new subscribers. One reason I subscribed to Netflix years ago was because they had the West Wing and I loved that series. I’m sure there were others who came to Netflix because of The Office or Friends. I don’t see TV+ being anything more than a niche streaming service if all Apple ever has on it is a handful of original series. Though from a back catalog perspective I’m not sure how much is available for Apple to acquire.
I do not agree. ATV+ is far lower level streaming service in quality, quantity and diversity of content. In Netflix, there is almost anything for every taste and original TV shows and movies from many different countries, not only from the US.
I also do not agree that it is question of time before ATV+ gets to where it needs to be. Apple should change the way they select content to be included and stop limiting producers and directors just to protect its image.
I hear this take of propaganda, politics and being woke and it’s simply not true. The problem is people who don’t like the changes made use these reasons as default explanations about how things are “getting worse” but it’s actually so much better for everyone else except for the few who believe being woke is an issue.
Here is a Steve Jobs quote that has always stuck with me because it does apply to “woke virtue signaling” claims also.
“When you’re young, you look at television and think, There’s a
conspiracy. The networks have conspired to dumb us down. But
when you get a little older, you realize that’s not true. The networks
are in business to give people exactly what they want. That’s a far
more depressing thought. Conspiracy is optimistic! You can shoot
the bastards! We can have a revolution! But the networks are really
in business to give people what they want. It’s the truth.” Steve Jobs
The entertainment industry is and will always give people exactly what they want because it’s what sells. Every other view is the minority, no question.
I think Apple is fine with a niche streaming service for the next few years. They are pricing it like a niche streaming service now anyway, in the Acorn and Britbox area. Eventually Apple's catalog will be like the early HBO years (I'm thinking in 4-5 years with this level of releases that we are seeing now) and Apple will be making sufficient profit from TV+ and the Apple One bundle.
I am not sure what you are disagreeing ;-) I was talking about the ratio of interesting (for me and the family) content to uninteresting content. It seems to me pretty much the same as in other services, including Netflix. That is why ATV+ is currently not very good, simply because there isn't enough stuff for us to watch to justify continuous subscription.
For us the number one streaming service has always been Netflix, exactly for the reasons you mentioned (e.g. we have been watching quite a lot of Korean stuff lately). Everyone in our family of four can ALWAYS find something to watch. We have never even considered cancelling Netflix. Disney+ has become the number two service for us and currently we have one year subscription.
All the other services we just subscribe for a month when there is some particular interesting new show or season. ATV+ has only one thing that we are interested enough to pay for one month; the second season of Ted Lasso. Once all the episodes have landed we will subscribe for one month and then cancel.
Yes, quite frankly, and this WWDC was a clear sign of that. Almost all the new 'features' are things Apple would have said no to in the past.
Well I should hope so. Any company that doesn't change/adapt is dead to new customers. Apple is an old tech company so many of their original customers are literally dying off.
I'm going to save this post so in 5 years when it does happen I can tell you I told you so. 😜
Assumption that everyone is like you aside, people not canceling is not "the opposite effect" which would be MORE people signing up once it costs money.
This is so wrong on so many levels. The new stuff sells to young people because that is all they know. Young people have two major drives; be different, no matter the cost (in terms of creativity, critical thinking, skills, etc.) and do/like what their peers have been programmed to do and like.
Young people (of all generations) think they know so much more than they really do. And because of this they are easily manipulated. You want to attack a country, all you have to do is sell propaganda to the young. Recent history proves this over and over. It used to be hard to get to the young because they were protected by family and wiser older people. Not any more. The media has direct access to youth that do not know any better and it will be too late when they find out.
Hollywood has always been propaganda, but 50+ years ago it was to build the country up, now it is to tear it down. Why? Because of all of the money coming from China (and other outsiders). China (and others) do not want a strong America, and they have plenty of money to fund TV programs, news broadcasts, and movies that weaken America.
China (and other outsiders) also have enough money to buy politicians.
There really is a world that is more complicated and evil that what you see on TV and the nightly news.
Nah, what you’re saying is actually what’s so wrong on so many levels.
The entertainment industry only makes what sells.
To your own point, old Hollywood and their propaganda to build America up as you claim was all anyone knew at the time and everyone just ignored everything that was actually happening in the country, that’s a terrible way to support a country. That’s how the majority of conservatives want to continue to live, in ignorant bliss
Have you ever considered your own beliefs and the propaganda you have fallen for? People today calling out Americas severely traumatic and tortured past aren’t out to destroy America, they are out to make it better.
The way to do this is to recognize the problems, point directly at them and face them, not hide behind the facade of “America is the greatest and anyone who says anything bad is a traitor” mentality that conservative media solely relies on.
Sure, politicians can and have been bought by foreign entities, it’s happened on both sides and it’s terrible. We are currently living in a time where the previous president and staff met, paid, and solicited foreign interference and influence on our election, while still today being fed foreign propaganda embraced by the former president and claiming liberals are to blame for everything terrible that has happened.
If America was as great and brave as you claim it once was, there was no way politicians and Hollywood could have been bought and paid for, yet here we all are.
Here’s what I know about the complicated world that’s that’s not on tv and nightly news. One side of the spectrum is trying to advance America and make everything better for everyone, and the other side is preparing for an apocalyptic civil war with the other side because they’ve been fed constant fear inducing propaganda and believe they’re on the side of America lol.
Congrats, you pass. Totally indoctrinated and a true believer. You should sleep good tonight, your children and grandchildren, in their time not so much.
Those who sit around and claim everyone woke now has been indoctrinated and brain washed don’t see that they themselves are the ones who were indoctrinated and brainwashed a long time ago.
People can live in fear, falling for lies and conspiracies their entire lives or wake up and address the real issues in America to actually advance.