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Apple Declines Request to Testify at U.S. Congressional Hearing Probing Ties to China
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Please name 5 hard facts that support your thesis. Otherwise it's just opinion making, which you know everywhere.
Youngster? I was born in '57, does that make me a youngster? I'm also a 10-year combat Veteran of the US Army. And you, when did you serve?
You are two years older than me. What the heck does serving in any military have to do with this?
Seriously? I mean seriously?
A recent comment by the ‘Commandeer’ in chief;
“We’ve got control of the oil......”
You are two years older than me. What the heck does serving in any military have to do with this?
For some reason rgbrock1 thinks that by being a 10 year combat veteran, he has an objective unbiased opinion of what his masters have been orchestrating (with him nothing but a poor pawn) over many years.
I agree but at the same time those pawns are supposed to do as they’re told no matter what. (Well, unless they KNOW an order is illegal).
What the equates to is years of indoctrination. The military is like a cult that’s essential to the survival of a country.
True. Unfortunately since WW2 the vast majority of military initiatives have been for very dubious reasons and solved little and in fact, created more problems at the expense of monetary and human resources. But some still cheer this on.
Why is this sounding like the 'red scare' of the McCarthy hearings. Amazing. And especially so because they practically pushed American jobs to China, the political class and Wall Street I'm referring to.
The was some of them act, you would have thought they slept through the whole offshoring rush, and woke up and found out about it fresh. It boggles the mind.
The Chamber of Commerce, the Heritage Foundation, and just about every right wing coop in the country was pushing whole hog to move as much as they could to China, and then other 'hell holes', and now because their lack of hygiene and food safety standards blows up in China's, and their faces, the chickens in Congress get all upset. It should come with a laugh track. Seriously...
China became the power it is because in order to manufacture the good we've been binging on for a decade, they needed to know how they worked. You can't give someone the recipe and then slam them for learning how to make that, and then make it better and steal your market. The Covid-19 episode is another way to pick at the scab of Americans looking for work. There is no serious plan to bring jobs back to America, because they costs are too high, but they will say anything to get the focus off all the other drama, and dup people to vote for them. (Anyone remember the promise before the 2018 elections?)
The investor class loves their tax cuts, and they aren't going to want to change it for anything.
But anyway. Apple works with the Chinese government because they have to. They are that big. Especially in China. How many 'employees' are put to work making the products for the rest of us? How much money does the Chinese government make by having Apple there. To spank Apple for that is ridiculous. How many 'company towns' are scattered across this country? I live in one. If 'the company' gets a cold, the whole area gets the shakes. Whatever...
The was some of them act, you would have thought they slept through the whole offshoring rush, and woke up and found out about it fresh. It boggles the mind.
The Chamber of Commerce, the Heritage Foundation, and just about every right wing coop in the country was pushing whole hog to move as much as they could to China, and then other 'hell holes', and now because their lack of hygiene and food safety standards blows up in China's, and their faces, the chickens in Congress get all upset. It should come with a laugh track. Seriously...
China became the power it is because in order to manufacture the good we've been binging on for a decade, they needed to know how they worked. You can't give someone the recipe and then slam them for learning how to make that, and then make it better and steal your market. The Covid-19 episode is another way to pick at the scab of Americans looking for work. There is no serious plan to bring jobs back to America, because they costs are too high, but they will say anything to get the focus off all the other drama, and dup people to vote for them. (Anyone remember the promise before the 2018 elections?)
The investor class loves their tax cuts, and they aren't going to want to change it for anything.
But anyway. Apple works with the Chinese government because they have to. They are that big. Especially in China. How many 'employees' are put to work making the products for the rest of us? How much money does the Chinese government make by having Apple there. To spank Apple for that is ridiculous. How many 'company towns' are scattered across this country? I live in one. If 'the company' gets a cold, the whole area gets the shakes. Whatever...
For sure and whilst we should recognise those that sacrifice themselves and those that don’t but that put themselves as risk of such a thing we need to be able to speak freely.
I think political leaders especially play on this as they know it’s not the done thing to criticise the troops. So they big them up at every opportunity without really meaning or understanding what they are saying.
And the current leader lauding the worlds current dictators with praise and kudos too...
And he's from Missouri? Maybe he should be working to raise Missouri out of the crater they have been in for the past decades? Missouri has got to be in the bottom 10 or 15 for just about everything in the nation, and this clown focuses on Apple? Good grief...
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China kills people that try to gain freedom. Any talk of unionization, or 'workers rights' are met with near military force. A happy employee is a problem...
You should keep in mind that "evil regime" are pretty much the words that any nation on the planet would use to describe the Trump administration.
PS: Oh. I just saw that Jax44 beat me to it.
Come on, you fxxk politicians, Xi, Trump, Hawley, CCP, you've already gotten a lot of powers, please LEAVE ALONE people's normal life and companies' regular business decisions, just play your personal POWER HUNGRY games in your assigned office ON YOUR OWN!!!!!
But they wouldn't win elections if they did that.
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Good for them. We are not all at the beck and call of random polticians who want to grand stand. Sometimes saying no is the best answer. And I think we screwed up getting so integrated in a murderous tyrannical country like China - but that doesn't mean we should have to run when blowhards of either party (and they are all blowhards) want us to show up.
Not sure how you got there from my post and the person I was replying to...
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no the same point does not apply. You specifically said the Chinese military wasn’t trying to steal resources they have no claim to. I pointed out how that’s exactly what they’re doing and you wanna call that one upping? No it’s pointing out your claim about China was utter nonsense meant to make the US look bad and China good.
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Which we gave to the recognized government of the territory, not the terrorist thugs who were in control of it before our military tore them apart and made them scatter into the desert. The United States did not steal the oil for itself as you’re implying.
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Hasn't failed thus far, the Chinese economy has been struggling hard even before covid19 started up. That is why they were forced to capitulate on the phase 1 deal. I work with China and everybody in the business community knows the economy sucks due to America's "containment", if thats what you want to call it.
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Hahaha.
You think you're smarter than you really are.
Read that back slowly… that part about "follow Nokia"? 4 words… "Where are they now?"
If Microsoft's Trojan Horse (Stephen Elop) did not purposely drive down the company's value to make it cheaper for Microsoft's eventual takeover, badmouth its products before their next OS is ready (MeeGo) and incentivize the board members for approving the Microsoft merger, they would still be huge today.
With that said, Nokia is still around, as a networks company. They also have a phone business with HMD Global, comprised of old Nokia employees.
I don’t think it’s so much the west being “blind” to China’s actions around the world, but rather America’s media failing to share such info. It wouldn’t get ratings, so why bother?
Australia has a regular fire season like Cali, but it made news this year. Why?
The amazon regularly has jungles set ablaze to make room for cash crops, but that also doesn’t always make the news. Why?
There was a massive volcanic eruption near the Philippines about a month ago, but our media didn’t report that. Why? I’m sure there’s more to it, but I’m sure one reason is: ratings. Only report the “hot” stories.... no pun intended.
It’s far, far more complex than you have put it here. Yes, US interests are at stake, but even this predates the oil rush (look up how the Marine nickname “leatherneck” originated). More critically, we have a solid ally in the ME that needs us as much as we need them. Don’t doubt for a second that they aren’t worth protecting either. For starters, much of the latest tech in your iPhone comes from that ally of ours.
This isn’t in regard to ME oil - this statement is in regard to the oil we’ve been pumping and exporting from our own land/coastlines.
I guarantee you the US have been stealing and controlling oil out there for ages. Ages.