Yep, even small updates.
OS 1.1.3 (yes you read that correctly a double point update) was $19.95.
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Apple Defeats Lawsuit Related to iCloud's Measly 5GB of Free Storage
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OS 1.1.3 (yes you read that correctly a double point update) was $19.95.
For years, Apple sold family packs of OS X for an extra $50… that were completely pointless because even the single use license disc had absolutely nothing on it stopping you from installing it on an unlimited amount of Macs.Even the first OS X public beta cost $30 on disc and actually timed out after the official final initial release, so you had to buy the full version again
They even came out and said the only way to install Snow Leopard over Tiger was a $169 box set.
The $29 regular upgrade package worked completely fine to fresh install or on top of leopard, Apple was just trying to sell people on a package that was an extra $140.
Completely under Steve Jobs, folks, completely under Steve Jobs.
Just because they didn’t have antipiracy features isn’t a reason not to sell licenses in more than a one pack? Not everyone is dishonest all the time. I’m glad updates are included with the hardware now though
I never understood the hero worship with Steve Jobs. He was a very intelligent and maybe even a great man but like any human being he wasn’t perfect.
Very true, moving to iCloud Photo Library was the only reason I paid for the storage. And since they roll it in with the price of other features I enjoy like Apple News and Apple Music, it’s essentially free with Apple One, at least it seems that way to me.
I used to back up my phone locally to PC and kept my photos locally in iPhotos, never had a storage issue. I chose to move over to paid storage for convenience. No complaints on my end.
The idea that somebody filed a lawsuit because the free stuff they get "isn't enough" is truly a time to be alive
Yeah. Apple’s baseline products appear to be really good value these days.
Base iPhone SE with base iCloud and a base Mac Mini M4 is a pretty decent complete ecosystem.
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Well, one dollar is nothing, but also 50 GB are not a great number for today’s standard.
Make it 100 GB and that would be fair.
They are not, but Apple used to be a company where user experience was at the top of the list. They are earning enough money to offer 30 GB for free, don’t you think ?
Exactly. Make the free base at 100, the $1 at 200 and the 200GB up to 500 GB and it will be better.
You don’t store ANYTHING in 5 GB
You are a millennial with no access to a PC ?
I am using 1.6 GB of iCloud. A few docs on Drive, Passwords and Notes has been a great way to send somthing from my mac to the iPhone. It's been fine.
Clearly not, as it was completely free on the iPhone.
And also completely free if you did a fresh install with the IPSW lol.
Steve said that iPod touch users had to pay money for updates due to “ accounting reasons”. If Tim said that today this place would explode.
My only comment on the headline is the word “measly” could have been left out. It makes the title a bit click-baity.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit this week upheld a lower court's dismissal of a lawsuit alleging that Apple illegally deceived customers into paying for iCloud storage, according to a court filing. The decision was reported by Law360.
The lawsuit alleged that Apple deceived customers into purchasing iCloud-enabled devices by misleading customers into believing that they can easily keep their iCloud storage usage below the free 5GB limit. In reality, the plaintiffs alleged that users quickly exceed this limit and then must pay for increasingly costly iCloud storage plans. In the U.S., these plans range from 50GB for $0.99 per month to 12TB for $59.99 per month.
In the ruling, three Ninth Circuit judges said the plaintiffs failed to establish that it is "virtually impossible" for them to reduce their storage, or that they will inevitably be forced to pay for iCloud storage. In fact, two named plaintiffs were still on the 5GB tier. The judges added that customers have the option to turn off iCloud at any time.
The case had been dismissed by a U.S. district court in Northern California back in May 2022, and now the appeal to the Ninth Circuit has been dismissed. Barring the extremely unlikely event that the plaintiffs are able to successfully petition the U.S. Supreme Court to hear the case, the lawsuit is now over. However, Apple is still facing other iCloud-related lawsuits in both the U.S. and U.K., as complaints about the 5GB tier persist.
Apple launched iCloud in 2011, and the service has been available with 5GB of storage for free since then. By today's standards, 5GB is a low amount of storage, and Apple not increasing the free limit has long been a point of contention.
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Your comment on photos doesn’t make sense. If you don’t have enough cloud storage to sync your photos, then you also don’t have enough space to backup those same photos with an iPhone backup. Using an iPhone backup is just doubling the iCloud space you’d need to sync then and then also make a backup.
Again with files, if you’re making a backup of files to store in iCloud backup, just sync them in iCloud Drive and they are available across all your devices instead of storing locally and then using the same amount of space to sync a backup of the files.
I don’t have a single app that doesn’t use iCloud sync. And have never used an iCloud backup, everything just resyncs using iCloud once I restore my phone. Even game saves for games sync using iCloud Drive.
On Apple's iTunes Match page:
"iTunes Match isn't a back up service, so make sure to always have a back up of your music collection before you make any changes."
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On Apple's iTunes Match page:
"iTunes Match isn't a back up service, so make sure to always have a back up of your music collection before you make any changes."
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What’s your point? I back up my Mac at home & in a cloud service. I pay $25 a year to Apple for iTunes Match to keep my other devices at home synchronized with the same music. I don’t pay for Apple Music, I own all my tunes. 😉
This is not what I want. I want all of my music backed up.
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Even the first OS X public beta cost $30 on disc and actually timed out after the official final initial release, so you had to buy the full version again
Who's talking charity? Apple DID want to make a lot of updates and releases free, but couldn't because of legal issues. Jobs stated this multiple times and it took legal wrangling to be able to do it.
That's not it at all. Cost of goods includes things that aren't tangible. Imagine that, businesses include in "goods" things that aren't tangible, but still COST something. Just like goods that you SPEND money on once that you get additions to periodically after that initial sale might be included.
"Basic functionality" is doing real yeoman's work in your house of cards there, I gotta tell ya. After Apple tells you all the wondrous things iCloud can do for you and your devices working together, Photos taken by one device being available on all your devices, etc. Just like in all those commercials, then telling you that iCloud comes free with your purchase on every device. But don't read that 7.5pt type at the end of the ad!
Say, maybe you should have tried putting that "Basic functionality" line in 7.5pt type.
Please explain how this is an example of gaslighting.
In what way is Apple intentionally lying to convince people their own perception of reality is not true?
Hint: Just because you don't like something someone says/does that doesn't mean its gaslighting.