Apple Defends Against Microsoft in 'App Store' Trademark Dispute

[JAT]

Apple basically had no firsts with the iPhone.
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Apple is not proficient at creating new things. They are proficient at taking existing things and marketing them. They sit on the shoulder of giants and are only very rarely giants themselves.

Really? Let's see, they didn't invent music, so the popularity of the iPod doesn't really mean they did anything at all. They didn't invent the phone or fingers (and God knows not the human ear), so the popularity of the iPhone doesn't mean anything at all. They should probably just take the "Apple" off of those devices, it's not like they "did" anything to create them. Hell, they didn't invent color or TV either, so even their marketing sucks.

Why do you bother posting like this?

OMG, I just realized, they also didn't invent aluminum, so MBP users can't really like their computers!

 

[linux2mac]

Apple is not proficient at creating new things.

I wonder who they copied to make the Macbook Air you own?

And Thunderbolt is not a "new thing" either, right? LOL

Light Peak was Apple’s idea in the first place, promoted to Intel by Cupertino as an interface to replace FireWire 800, USB 3.0, SCSI, SATA, you name it. There are precedents for Apple proposing new connection technologies like this. That’s how both FireWire (IEEE 1394) and WiFi (802.11) came to be

http://www.cringely.com/2011/02/attack-of-the-minis/

 

[KnightWRX]

Really? Let's see, they didn't invent music, so the popularity of the iPod doesn't really mean they did anything at all. They didn't invent the phone or fingers (and God knows not the human ear), so the popularity of the iPhone doesn't mean anything at all. They should probably just take the "Apple" off of those devices, it's not like they "did" anything to create them. Hell, they didn't invent color or TV either, so even their marketing sucks.

Why do you bother posting like this?

OMG, I just realized, they also didn't invent aluminum, so MBP users can't really like their computers!

Why are you getting so worked up about my comment ? I stand behind my comment, Apple is not good at creating things (inventing them if you want to be pedantic). They are good at taking existing concepts and marketing them. Why does it make you angry ? It's the plain truth. It doesn't mean their stuff isn't good or that you can't like it. It doesn't mean I don't like their stuff either. It just means what I said : Apple takes ideas elsewhere, packages them up and markets them to the masses. If they found success doing that, why should that be a bad thing ?

It just means they'll very rarely get a "first" in the industry.

 

[mdelvecchio]

and at Apple for trying to trademark generic names/terms. They spend more money filing patents than on innovation at this point.. ipad 1.5 case in point.

huh? you mean other than innovating a whole new genre of (oft immitated) tablet computing?

 

[35g700]

That's not true. Microsoft's margins are much higher than Apple's.

Less than a week ago Apple was charging $1200, for a laptop that was using far outdated CPU architecture that was designed 5 years ago. You could buy a laptop with better specs for like $400 less, if you include the fact that MacBooks Pro's are built better than they maybe like $300 overpriced. Apple also charges for OS updates, and the Mac Pro's are marked up by an insane margin.

Apple does make good quality products, but the amount they mark their products up is a lot more than most other companies.

 

[dejo]

Less than a week ago Apple was charging $1200, for a laptop that was using far outdated CPU architecture that was designed 5 years ago. You could buy a laptop with better specs for like $400 less, if you include the fact that MacBooks Pro's are built better than they maybe like $300 overpriced.

Well, Microsoft doesn't sell laptops so I'm not sure how this helps your argument.

Apple also charges for OS updates...

As does Microsoft, unless Windows 95, 98, XP, Vista and 7 were free and I missed it.

 

[michael.lauden]

But that's what you did say :

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Apple basically had no firsts with the iPhone. [...]

[...]They had the 'first' app store, every phone has 'apps' because of Apple, their dev network for iOS is the most extensive, and again - the first. I can see the logic on both sides

[...]Notice the "'s around first. They weren't THE FIRST, but they definitely created the model that most smartphone companies are going behind[...]

If I was implying they were first - I would have said it. I think I know what I meant more than you do - the only thing you are referring to is the 'first' thing - Ok great. LG had a phone w/o buttons first - no one even knows the name of it without using google. Must have been pretty awesome.

 

[AidenShaw]

generic use....

Note this headline from yesterday...

 

[KnightWRX]

If I was implying they were first - I would have said it.

You did say it. Again, there's no quotes around "first" in this part of your post : Apple, their dev network for iOS is the most extensive, and again - the first. You might know better what you meant, but you really failed at communicating it here.

 

[BaldiMac]

Less than a week ago Apple was charging $1200, for a laptop that was using far outdated CPU architecture that was designed 5 years ago. You could buy a laptop with better specs for like $400 less, if you include the fact that MacBooks Pro's are built better than they maybe like $300 overpriced. Apple also charges for OS updates, and the Mac Pro's are marked up by an insane margin.

Apple does make good quality products, but the amount they mark their products up is a lot more than most other companies.

You just veered way off the reservation there. We were comparing Apple and Microsoft. Not Apple and Dell or HP or whoever else makes your mythical laptop.

 

[michael.lauden]

You did say it. Again, there's no quotes around "first" in this part of your post : Apple, their dev network for iOS is the most extensive, and again - the first. You might know better what you meant, but you really failed at communicating it here.

JEEZ dude are you kidding me? SORRY that I failed so miserably in communicating my opinion - sorry that when you read it - for it not making any sense, and I'm sorry that you didn't see the first set of "'s. When I typed that horribly organized response I used the words 'again - the first' to imply that I am referring back to 'first', hence again - I went back and edited it JUST for you, because apparently even after 2 replies telling you what I was trying to say, and what I meant - you argue against something that I didn't mean, and the thread isn't about - so can we seriously just get back to the thread yet?

 

[CFreymarc]

and at Apple for trying to trademark generic names/terms. They spend more money filing patents than on innovation at this point.. ipad 1.5 case in point.

Dude, filing patents is innovation. What may be obvious to you is not to the masses and most of all the open market with more money than you. Sure, you are an expert in a field of knowledge, you see where everything is and you can look one or two steps ahead and see what is next. However, most cannot see beyond an existing technology since they lack depth of how the technology works.

I have seen many talented engineers, scientists and artists holed up in some of the "geek communes" coming up with wonderful ideas only to have some fat cat run with the prototype, patent it when the inventor was discouraged to do so in exchange for unlimited beer and pizza. Apple has stayed on top protecting their intellectual property and reaping the benefits of their effort. You and everyone else should.

Those who say it is "for the community" has no social vehicle to get just rewards for ones effort. The hardest, spirit filled socialist fly strong early in their youth, later they see no exchange for their effort. From that they become slow, bitter and lack of spirit with no production. Stalin in fact killed people like that to keep his social system going. One reason why I don't support it.

 

[theelysium]

You couldn't be more wrong.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/app

I'm a 100% correct.