Hmm ... my understanding after reading is that the security vouchers will only be generated if and only if a postitive match is found against the CSAM hash database stored in the device. Apple will only start to investigate if the threshold (which Craig Federighi said is 30) of security vouchers is breached for any particular account. It seems more reasonable to me if the vouchers are only generated for positive matches. No point storing unnecessary data if it's not needed.
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Apple Delays Rollout of Controversial Child Safety Features to Make Improvements
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The point of generating and storing those innocent vouchers is to protect user privacy. No Apple engineers, or spy, or hacker or user can look at an iPhone or iCloud account and count the vouchers and conclude that an account is innocent or guilty. Absolutely nothing can be learned about the account until the threshold is met. It's a lot of effort on Apple's part, and they must be shocked how little credit they're getting for it.
I would never buy a phone with this "feature." (Have never owned an iphone, probably never will, i'm an old school apple/mac computer guy.)
They are going to wait until the buzz fades from the press and then release it anyway. No thanks!
I'm all for children's safety, but not at the expense of this big brother BS, which also opens other doors. Invasion of privacy with the justification of "reason X" is a very slippery slope.
They are going to wait until the buzz fades from the press and then release it anyway. No thanks!
I'm all for children's safety, but not at the expense of this big brother BS, which also opens other doors. Invasion of privacy with the justification of "reason X" is a very slippery slope.
I don't think they will release it with doing a notification to the public. The backlash would probably be something they could not undo and would be extremely detrimental to their brand, probably to the point of not return... Not that this hasn't been bad for it.
The hashed closed database can be seen on your device. Whenever there is a database there is a search function installed. So I'd say they will keep away from it the way it was and not install anything on end user devices. However they might do something similar on their own servers or on separate servers.
Doing it on your device in secret again would really put the brand credibility at risk. They will not go this route after all the bad headlines.
Doing it on your device in secret again would really put the brand credibility at risk. They will not go this route after all the bad headlines.
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I think apple should start paying us for money to use our phones to scan material in our phones when they enable this feature. Scanning uses energy, components etc.. And we are paying for it. Or they need to start selling iphones, ipads, macbooks for lot less money.
If they merely delay it, I've got a new slogan for them.
I think your right, the only caveat is I would have sworn a few weeks back that they would never have gone down this road in the first place. Cook has flat out said in recent interviews that Apple would not develop tools that could potentially be used nefariously but unfortunately he was just taking digs at FB and others when he knew they were already on this path…. Just looks like a flat out lie in retrospect… that’s probably the main reason I lost trust, it wasn’t the billboards etc, it was statements made by cook himself. I guess it was naive to believe him but more naive of him to believe Apple could just say no to governments once this was on our phones
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there are those in the tech industry that believe just the act of saying they could do this makes it inevitable they will be forced to implement it eventually, it’s a different argument when you tell the gov that what they are asking for is impossible…. Now it would be just an act of defiance which never goes well when combatting government intrusion
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Ya from what I can tell Cook is conspicuously absent on CSAM, no quotes or anything. "Privacy is a human right" much?
Minor children should not be sexting period. The ramifications of that, having such pictures come back and haunt them is much greater than the "redneck" down the road issue. In addition, teen girls being preyed upon by grown men is also an issue. I agree with parents knowing what kids are doing online.
It’s not Really that I’m against it, it’s just the idea of keeping ios clean, parents could easily download the capability if they want to, having the code on all phones just makes it another potential vulnerability
You really live in a world where minor e.g. 17yo boy/girl (or some countries under 21) doesnt think sex, or sexting, or..? Im sorry to say you, but that is not a reality. The reality is to educate them to behave wisely. And this is the parents work, not apple playing nanny etc…
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I live very much in the real world. And no, not every teen boy and girl are sexting. In fact, this gen Z are less sexually active than previous generations. My point is there are dumb kids, and they can end up paying a steep price. The New York Times ran a piece on *******, and minors. There were examples of girls that sent nudes only to be later harassed to the point of near suicide. One girl trying to impress a boy that she thought liked her, send him nudes when he asked. They turned up on *******, circulated around the school, and she was labeled and ridiculed. This is the kind of trouble that kids can get into. Most tech companies, to include Apple have various parental controls and safeguard built into their tech. That is not the same as Apple's spyware plan to monitor adults.
That was part of the reason that Apple was successfully arguing against the FBI in the San Bernardino incident. Apple cannot be forced (in the USA) to build a function based solely on Government demand. Once Apple has the system built, not sure how designed falls into this, it becomes a very different argument trying to say "No". Apple cannot say "we will never allow" and "follow the law" if the Government presents a legal request. For here in the US, it becomes just a matter of time before Apple is forced to repurpose this tool.
I would like to say Apple has a way around this however they are being silent about this.