I don’t think a real „journalist“ would publish trade secrets like the Coke recipe and hope to get away! LOL!This is seriously messed up. Unless Apple has EVIDENCE that this "Mr White" did something illegal or participated in this alleged illegal activity directly, then reposting a photo sent to you is not a crime I'm aware of.
Imagine if this flew in the US and you could sue every journalist (which has a brought definition at best) when they posted something that a company did not want to be released to the public....
But of course, go after the Chinese citizens who have no such rights. The low-hanging fruit. Real big of Apple who claims to support all of these ethical policies globally, but then uses those abuses to their advantage when convenient.
Apple is selecting very specific targets and not just every website that publishes the info.
I would say reading is fundamental.Different countries have different laws
Who is possessing something stolen? A photograph or someone describing something i writing can not be stolen property. That is what is being discussed.Ummm. It actually is illegal and yes journalist have to vet things or they will be accountable. Possessing stolen items is a literal crime.
Bingo!Exactly. This is not about enforcing rules/laws fairly for justice. It's selective intimidation of people least able to defend themselves to spread fear. Just like how Apple targets smaller electronics shops over right to repair.
I don’t know that “a photograph can not be stolen property” is a correct statement of the law.Who is possessing something stoeln? A photograph can not be stolen property.
The criminal has stolen property, not the journalist.
Where did you go to law school exactly?
Well correct I guess that should be a distinction, but this is baby steps getting past just making up what the sheer basic law is or is not. Without a basic google search even.I don’t know that “a photograph can not be stolen property” is a correct statement of the law.
That said, a photograph of stolen property isn’t necessarily stolen property itself. The journalist apparently never illegally possessed anything at all.
What is "enough" though? Paying workers more is no guarantee it will stop.The best way to curtail this sort of thing is to pay the workers enough that they don't resort to this side hustle. We all know the workers gets peanuts, the fence is the one making the big bucks. The worker is taking a huge risk for a few hundred bucks, while the middleman profits to the tune of a few thousand.
Agreed.Well correct I guess that should be a distinction, but this is baby steps getting past just making up what the sheer basic law is or is not. Without a basic google search even.
You keep parroting this yet I have stated this in direct reference to US leakers and why they are going after these Chinese citizens. One very specific scenerio.Different countries have different laws
What is "enough" though? Paying workers more is no guarantee it will stop.
It's reported that Foxconn employees are paid monthly salaries of around 4,000 yuan (currently US$616). What if they were paid 50% more (6,000 yuan / USD$924). Meanwhile, they're paid $50... $100... maybe more for each piece of really good leaked info (I seem to remember reading that's how much Nick Ciarelli of ThinkSecret.com paid people... or maybe my memory is faulty).
Anyways, $100 would be a little more than 3 day's worth of work if they saw a 50% pay raise. If it were me, I wouldn't stop if the buyer of that info constantly cames to me as a trusted source. I'd easily make a months salary in a month or two.
I know they're poorly paid. My point is you could pay them more, even 2x more than what they're currently paid. That won't guarantee they'll stop selling info to the leakers... not when they view it as an opportunity for extra money to be made.I really dont want to get into a fair labor debate, but that is half the average Chinese salary. https://www.statista.com/statistics/278350/average-annual-salary-of-an-employee-in-china-by-region/ The country-wide average is just over 90,000 per year.
They are paid like crap even for China standards. 48,000 even yearly is lower than the average for any Chinese province.
Oh I agree. It was more context to your post. They are paid like crap.I know they're poorly paid. My point is you could pay them more, even 2x more than what they're currently paid. That won't guarantee they'll stop selling info to the leakers... not when they view it as an opportunity for extra money to be made.
This is seriously messed up. Unless Apple has EVIDENCE that this "Mr White" did something illegal or participated in this alleged illegal activity directly, then reposting a photo sent to you is not a crime I'm aware of.
Imagine if this flew in the US and you could sue every journalist (which has a brought definition at best) when they posted something that a company did not want to be released to the public....
But of course, go after the Chinese citizens who have no such rights. The low-hanging fruit. Real big of Apple who claims to support all of these ethical policies globally, but then uses those abuses to their advantage when convenient.
Which Apple has every right to do.Exactly. This is not about enforcing rules/laws fairly for justice. It's selective intimidation of people least able to defend themselves to spread fear.
False (nonsensical) equivalence.Just like how Apple targets smaller electronics shops over right to repair.
Huh? You mean in my latest post? That was to cover myself from comments such as ‘that applies to the EU, I’m from America’You keep parroting this yet I have stated this in direct reference to US leakers and why they are going after these Chinese citizens. One very specific scenerio.
They probably won't touch them for now because, at least Mark, he doesn't show us real products, he just makes articles on what he "expects", so it doesn't really seem like he's leaking anything but we know he's been reliable with his "expectations" so that's why people consider his words - leaks.So Jon processor and German is safe?
So much for the new Mr. White account on twitterElsewhere, the original Twitter account of the leaker known as "Mr. White," with the handle @laobaiTD, was deleted around June 11. There is a new Mr. White account on Twitter posting images of Apple prototypes, but the original @laobaiTD was responsible for images purporting to depict a shorter, third-generation Apple Pencil and second-generation AirPods Pro circuitry.
Enough is the threshold where a worker will not risk losing a well paying (enough $$$) job to risk making a few extra $$$. The actual pay needs to be at least 10x more than what the side hustle can net.What is "enough" though? Paying workers more is no guarantee it will stop.