Apple Denies Report Claiming Chinese Spies Planted Microchips in iCloud Servers

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    Bloomberg Businessweek today reports that around three years ago, the Chinese military began inserting microchips on Supermicro server motherboards while they were being manufactured in China, providing the Chinese government with a stealth doorway into any network that used the tampered hardware.

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    The report cites an official who said investigators found the attack eventually affected nearly 30 companies, including Apple and Amazon, along with a major bank and government contractors in the United States.

    The microchip was placed on the motherboards in a way that allowed it to inject its own code or alter the order of the instructions the CPU was meant to follow, according to the report. One government official said China's goal was "long-term access to high-value corporate secrets and sensitive government networks."

    No consumer data is known to have been stolen, according to the report, but the extent of the attack appears to be unclear.

    Apple was a longtime Supermicro customer, with plans to order more than 30,000 of its server motherboards in two years for its global network of data centers, which power services like the App Store and Siri.
    The report claims Apple had around 7,000 of the motherboards in its data centers when its security team came across the microchips.

    Apple reportedly discovered the suspicious chips on the motherboards around May 2015, after detecting odd network activity and firmware problems. Two senior Apple insiders were cited as saying the company reported the incident to the FBI, but kept details about what it had detected tightly held.

    The insiders cited in the report said in the summer of 2015, a few weeks after Apple identified the malicious chips, the company started removing all Supermicro servers from its data centers. Every one of the 7,000 or so Supermicro servers was replaced in a matter of weeks, according to one of the insiders.

    In a strongly-worded statement, Apple denied Bloomberg Businessweek's report:
    Amazon also denied the report, while Supermicro said it remains unaware of any such investigation. Chinese officials did not directly address the report, stating that "supply chain safety in cyberspace is an issue of common concern, and China is also a victim."

    However, in addition to the three Apple insiders, the report says four of six U.S. officials confirmed that Apple was a victim.

    Apple did acknowledge a 2016 incident in which it discovered an infected driver on a single Supermicro server in one of its labs. Apple said that one-time event was determined to be accidental and not a targeted attack.

    Early last year, The Information reported that Apple cut ties with Supermicro in 2016 after unearthing a security vulnerability in at least one of its servers, which seems to be the incident that Apple is referring to in its statement. Apple has since moved on to other server suppliers, including ZT Systems and Inspur.

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  2. Ma2k5 macrumors 68020

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    Security is such a difficult problem faced by every company. I'd hate to be the one responsible to make sure we aren't breached!
     
  3. DBZmusicboy01 macrumors 6502a

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    I am not surprised if it’s true.
    Business is businesse. All these companies are corrupted beyond imagined. Look at what Facebook did with our data selling it for profit.
     
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    Apple should use their Trillion dollars and set up shop in another country or just buy or create their own. They need to be less dependent on Chinese manufacturing because this is only going to get worse.
     
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    Yeah, this is EXACTLY the reason why I buy their phones.
     
  8. barkomatic macrumors 601

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    I don't think we can trust Apple's statement on this issue since the FBI/government could have ordered the affected companies to deny it ever happened for national security purposes.
     
  9. DeftwillP macrumors 6502

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    But muh corporate profits.....
     
  10. laz232 macrumors 6502

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    This is why the Russia, Russia, Russia is so disingenuous - everyone is hacking everything they can. We (the West) are hacking shedloads too. Why does this surprise anyone. Oh, sorry, was unable to trigger internet outrage machine with the word Trump...

    4 years ago I heard how all hacking was being attributed to China / NK, but now the hour of hate is targeted at Russia - who will it be next? 1984 is real...
     
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    Ding ding... That's the problem right there... sheer greed.
     
  12. cmaier macrumors G5

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    No they couldn’t. They could order Apple to say nothing, but not to lie. Little thing called the First Amendment.
     
  13. thadoggfather, Oct 4, 2018
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    Lol but but .... what about freedom of the press, apple? What about the term fake news, being fake news, and the president’s “siege” against the press? What about the news app propping up “important journalism”?

    Don’t like it when it’s directed at you huh?

    I’m afraid this will just be the start :D

    I said when batterygate happened it’s just the tip of the iceberg for slimy Tim Cook pitching the same PR pitch aimlessly steering his leaky 1 trillion dollar ship

    You reap what you sow

    And apple is in bed with China. They are beginning to rub people the wrong way, with reality distortion fields way down and prices way up

    “I wouldn’t worry or get hung up on servers being located in China” Tim tells the vice reporter. Apparently people ARE hung up on it

    The apple ceo has a China First mantra.
     
  14. cmaier macrumors G5

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    What are you talking about?
     
  15. agsystems, Oct 4, 2018
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    "In a strongly-worded statement," - uh- Apple its not giving themselves a lot off leeway here - for their sake - their statement better be true
     
  16. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    The US government could order Apple to lie? Seriously?
     
  17. cmaier macrumors G5

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    I’m sure it is.
     
  18. tromboneaholic Suspended

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    Apple won't ban Bloomberg from iOS devices based on inaccurate reporting about Apple, so I'm not sure what your point is.
     
  19. cmaier macrumors G5

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    The lack of civics education is what got us all into this mess.
     
  20. thadoggfather macrumors G4

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    The ceo of apple is a pussyhat wearing resistance fighter in bed with China

    Gotta love when the press goes after him

    It’s very sweet and poetic :D

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    It's greed that prevents them from making Materially False Statements. Look at what happened to Elon and Tesla for lying.
     
  22. bluecoast macrumors 6502a

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    It sounds pretty plausible.

    No smoke without fire & all that.
     
  23. tromboneaholic Suspended

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    Do you live in China? Why are you so riled up over this?
     
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    Why?
     
  25. thadoggfather macrumors G4

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    Why do you take my criticism of apple and a ceo so personally? Why is that your first reaction? Am I going after a local mums and pops shop?

    Liberals who defend trillion dollar valuation tech companies like they’re a precious startup, to no end disgust me. Even when they tow the line with China

    “What’s wrong with China now?!?!” Baseless russiagate screechers now try to argue. Pathetic! Absolutely pathetic!
     

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