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What's the likelihood of ever being able to use an iPhone or iPod Touch linked via USB , WiFi or Bluetooth as a MultiTouch pad on previous Macs? This could be a 'cheaper' solution for people that want to have MultiTouch on their MBP etc but don't want to fork out for an entirely new computer.

Never going to happen. Too complicated to seamlessly achieve. And not to mention impractical.
 
You didn't READ my post did you? I said much. The screen is touch IS sensitive. and what is being shown in that patent isn't totally about multitouch....or did you not read the patent either?

Oh and
http://www.4shared.com/file/38363955/f537d854/whatever.html

The FPS in the capture is horrid and it doesn't show you my finger being used....The point is that Apple isn't doing anything new, and hardly anything revolutionary. And while I'm not sure if my tablet can register a multitouch I know for a damn fact that Lenovo's Thinkpad Tablet can. As I've harped on people before. Vista has the undercarriage to support a very nice touch GUI. Someone simply needs to build 3rd party apps to use it. We already are seeing such things as I said before in apps that recognize gestures to do specific actions. More then anything its apple who is starting to play catch up. dropping a larger touchpad in your device and allowing you to stretch pictures does NOT a revolution make.

I was being a little sarcastic. I did read your post, and flipped through the patent app, and looked at the diagrams, which depict something to me that is a pretty far cry from what I have seen anybody do on their tablet PCs, not to mention that gimpy little video in your post which implies a graphical front end to a very basic set of gestures. But I guess you just wanted to be a pretentious prat and accuse me of being stupid. You're certainly welcome to your opinion.
 
If a little is good...

Multitouch Gesturing has virtues, but these diagrams are harebrained. More is not necessarily better. Anything that makes computing more complicated is hardly user-friendly. An abundance of gestures is akin to learning a new language to read a book originally written in one's own language.

Why use an excessive number of gestures? Well, it's like Apple's transparent menus: because it can be done. Have to run; I'm reading "War and Peace" from back to front.
 
Well thanks for the compliment, but I think it is HOT :) As do lots of other people that have made mock-ups that are very similar! Guess we will see what Apple thinks in the next couple weeks or so.

The dark keypad definitely looks better than the current MBP - the TiBook design is looking stale and dated. Like something that was called "modern" in the 1950s.

It needs more contrast... I like the mockup.
 
The dark keypad definitely looks better than the current MBP - the TiBook design is looking stale and dated. Like something that was called "modern" in the 1950s.

It needs more contrast... I like the mockup.

what they really need to do is a zebra keyboard like those people have done with the white iBook keys and the black TiBook keys... remember that? lol.
 
Never going to happen. Too complicated to seamlessly achieve. And not to mention impractical.

i think the recent demo of using the iPhone as a remote touch pad/mouse kinda points that it could be practical.

Makes me wonder about the Apple Ultra portable macbook rumour roundup thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/398950/ around page 14

And the diagrams are harebrained for a reason - Aren't they made to look complicated? It's the patent drawing style.
 

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i think the recent demo of using the iPhone as a remote touch pad/mouse kinda points that it could be practical.

Makes me wonder about the Apple Ultra portable macbook rumour roundup thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/398950/ around page 14

And the diagrams are harebrained for a reason - Aren't they made to look complicated? It's the patent drawing style.

Those are interesting looking. One thing I don't want is a glossy, shiny laptop. They just seem to scratch so much worse. My black MacBook was so much more durable than any of the scratched up white Macbooks I have seen.
 
Those are interesting looking. One thing I don't want is a glossy, shiny laptop. They just seem to scratch so much worse. My black MacBook was so much more durable than any of the scratched up white Macbooks I have seen.

I hear that Photoshop sheen rubs right off ;)
 
Nobody remember or know "TouchStream" and "FingerWorks"?

A few years ago my company imported the products from the company "fingerworks" (www.fingerworks.com) and i sold them in Austria, after we sold about 100 pcs (4 month) there where delivery problems and a short time afterwards they said: we are being bought by a company, but we are not allowed to tell, but wait, in the future there will be exciting things to come ...

yeah ... from day one there where rumors that apple bought the technology ... and at that time i talked to wayne regarding delivery issues ..., ah, the good old times ...

they even had a replacement for the builtin-keyboard of the former mac book, which you could easily exchange ... it was pretty awesome.

but the time was not right for this product, i think in a year or two the demand for gestures will raise ... so, i hope they will bring out way more exciting products!

i still own a TouchStream LP ... it's so way ahead of it's time ... thought 4 or 5 years old .. :)

best to all,
 
I can't put my finger on how they'd distinguish between "two fingers" and "two non-adjacent fingers"..

I think that the "adjacency" has nothing to do with WHICH fingers you use - obviously, the computer can't tell whether you're doing index+middle or index+ring.

But it CAN tell how far apart the touches are. Index+pinky are ~2 inches apart, whereas index+middle are ~0.5 inches apart. Though, smartly, those kinds of combinations seem to have no default function - it would be extremely difficult to memorize EVERY permutation of five fingers. Plus, the computer probably couldn't consistently guess correctly what you were doing.

However, it does seem to distinguish between thumb+index (File Operations) and index+middle (Scroll and Secondary).
 
I want the next apple desktop keyboards to have ingeniously designed slide-out trackpad that enables all these fabulous gestures.

For the the guys with the current keyboards, I wish apple will provide a USB/bluetooth trackpad that enables the feature set.

I hope they also make such a trackpad pressure sensitive like the Wacom 'penabled' tablets — except that here you can sketch/write/doodle/paint with five natural styli!

I want one for my iMac already!
:D
 
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