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to the best of my knowledge, you can't program iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch apps on any of those devices, in fact, you can only do it on macs AFAIK, until that changes, apple's continued support of macs is a must.
 
Is it just me or do these apps just seem sort of, lame?
:eek:

Yeah men... I can mention 10 apps that deserve the Apple awards right now. Those apps are ok and I'm happy for them but let's be realistic Yahoo's iPad app looks like a winner even that we all know that out there are a lot better!
 
So what iPad apps should have won?

Plenty of people aren't happy with the results, saying it just furthers the iPad as iToy. So what apps should have won? What apps make the iPad a serious tool?

Here's my fave iPad apps:

- Note Taker HD 3 (the best handwritten note taking and the killer app for the iPad)

- CrowdMap (mind mapping)

- Sketchy (wireframes and mockups)

- ArtStudio (brilliant painting app)

- Calculator HD (includes basic, scientific and accounting with paper tape)

- Todo (nice layout and online syncing with Toodledo so can sync to iPhone)

- iCab Mobile (a desktop class browser with tabs, source view, filters and extensions and more)

- Remote HD (VNC on steroids. Use your iPad as your computer keyboard too)
 
Apart from wondering why they did exclude Mac categories from Apple Design Awards, I absolutely don't understand why Steve Jobs didn't mention Safari 5 in his keynote. I'm not a browser addict but Safari 5 is a huge leap forward. Look at HTML 5 examples, they're simply astonishing. Fantastic things are possible now using only HTML 5 and JavaScript, without Flash. And for some reason Steve didn't use his chance to even mention it.

iPhone 4 is certainly great, but it's not revolutionary. Japanese make video phone calls for years. It seems this year's WWDC is not a technology- but more marketing-driven. The money are in the iDevices area, and Apple is willing to promote it for the price of other products. And while I understand it, I just hope it won't become a tradition.
 
Having a feature is meaningless if that feature isn't implemented properly. Even the garbage companies in China which release Apple product knockoffs can release a phone with a very impressive list of features. What Apple does—and what has made such an incredible success of the company—is implement features in a way that everyone can appreciate and enjoy.

Consider video chat. We've had the technology for this for quite some time (outside cellular network bandwidth). It hasn't gone anywhere because something of this sort has to be implemented across platforms, cleanly, clearly, and by a company or organizing body which can get things done. There have been plenty of articles laughing at the speculation of this inclusion in the iPhone 4 for the reason—and I agreed with them. But Apple has introduced a stupid-simple implementation of the feature and will make it open to other companies and organizations to do the same. They could actually make it a legitimate phone feature across the world. That's huge. So consider: old feature, been around a long time, never meant anything. On the iPhone 4 it becomes a meaningful feature.

On a simple example, look at copy and paste on the Android, a decent implementation compared to other smartphones. It sucks compared to the iPhone. Google, despite having incredibly brilliant engineers, has a platform which rushes every feature imaginable out the gate. Excellent for tinkerers and people who buy feature lists (even though it may not truly be good for them), but terrible for the future of the platform. Implement something poorly and you're either left with a sub-par feature, or you have to go back and re-do things down the road. Not a big deal for tech folks, but it is a huge deal for regular consumers. A user of the first iPhone can use every other iPhone, just as a user of the most recent iPhone can use every other iPhone. And beyond that, the phone is incredibly easy to learn for anyone who will actually try it (again, not so for consumers on other platforms).

Google could learn a lot from this. Their platform would be much better if they spent more time making things perfect, even if it meant leaving some customers ranting for a little while wondering why it is taking them longer than expected. The customer is not always right. They've got the talent, but they're treating consumer hardware products—something new to them—like open-source software. That's a mistake.

Yeah right, Apple couldn't even make the wifi to work right on their stupid iPhone 4 at its demo. So much for “Apple's supreme quality.” :rolleyes:
 
I'm not a browser addict but Safari 5 is a huge leap forward. Look at HTML 5 examples, they're simply astonishing. Fantastic things are possible now using only HTML 5 and JavaScript, without Flash.

Unfortunately the audio demo is pathetic and that is the area I am most interested in as a developer. I was doing more interesting things 10 years ago than are possible now (granted, with plugins that are no longer around). I would love to abandon Flash but it's the only game in town right now (and for the past too many years).
 
What a sad state of affairs. :(

I am sure you are referring to your posting habits here, they are indeed in a very sad state, since you either post to comment baselessly in a negative manner, or you downright troll.

The moderating here is also in a "sad state of affairs" for not banning you after your repeated trolling of these forums. With these guys it's anything for a page hit, and as long as they can cultivate negative comments by the likes of types like yourself, and the assorted attention by the pc crowd and the replies by the apple crowd, anything goes...

As for apple, well, it's by far the most flourishing company in the tec world, so your comments are hilarious.

WWDC was always focused on the Mac side of things, and while it's awesome that the iPad and iPhone have had such "magical" success, Apple shouldn't forget about the OS X.

Tyre if you are to sport a macrumors demi god tag (and who knows what that signifies...) you should learn to say "about OS X", instead of "about the OS X", which is slaughtering language and common sense beyond repair.
 
Delusional is Apple's got a conference focusing on iOS so they don't care about Macs anymore.

So the fact that OSX and Mac weren't even addressed at a developer conference isn't alarming? Or how about dropping Mac apps from the design awards and only allowing iDevice apps in?
 
Yeah right, Apple couldn't even make the wifi to work right on their stupid iPhone 4 at its demo. So much for “Apple's supreme quality.” :rolleyes:

The fact that you think it is somehow reflective on Apple quality that they had problems with a product demo in a room where hundreds of people were operating their own MiFi access points shows how little you understand technology and how little credence your opinions on such matters should be given from this point forward.

How dare Apple not rewrite the laws of nature and warp the electromagnetic spectrum to Steve's will! :rolleyes:
 
The fact that you think it is somehow reflective on Apple quality that they had problems with a product demo in a room where hundreds of people were operating their own MiFi access points shows how little you understand technology and how little credence your opinions on such matters should be given from this point forward.

How dare Apple not rewrite the laws of nature and warp the electromagnetic spectrum to Steve's will! :rolleyes:

So we shouldn't blame Apple for going with WiFi, when as you say, WiFi sucks?

OK.

(And, BTW, where did you get the statistics to say that there were hundreds of MiFi access points in the room?)
 
Whatever, you say, I believe that iPad, in its way, is a huge leap forward- there are no equivalents to it of its kind- so are the apps. Why bother too much over a product that has its competitors (no matter how good it is :rolleyes: when you've already created something completely unique!) - You basically feel 21st century is finally here when using iPad. Mac will have its chance- this is just a period. But I totally understand WHY there is so much hustle about it when using my StarWalk.:)
 
(And, BTW, where did you get the statistics to say that there were hundreds of MiFi access points in the room?)

Steve said that they detected about 571 (something like that?) wifi access points in the room. Steve said that hundreds of those were probably MiFi's.
 
(And, BTW, where did you get the statistics to say that there were hundreds of MiFi access points in the room?)

So you haven't watched the keynote, but you are an expert on things Apple?

As sammich says, and anyone who watched they keynote knows, Steve himself told us there were hundreds of MiFi base stations in the room.

You'd also know that once those hundreds of base stations were turned off, the WiFi demos rocketed along.

On an aside tho, this does raise the whole question about any sort of wireless communication and how it is prone to interference. All these features Apple present obviously work fine in an ideal environment, but in the real world they are going to be much less reliable.
 
Steve said that they detected about 571 (something like that?) wifi access points in the room. Steve said that hundreds of those were probably MiFi's.

So you haven't watched the keynote, but you are an expert on things Apple?

As sammich says, and anyone who watched they keynote knows, Steve himself told us there were hundreds of MiFi base stations in the room.

You'd also know that once those hundreds of base stations were turned off, the WiFi demos rocketed along.

Whoa, whoa fellas...don't distract a die-hard hater with little trivialities like the facts. That really tends to mess with their worldview where Steve Jobs is an evil tyrant and Apple will eventually enslave us all inside their insidious walled garden of death. :rolleyes:
 
I'm so tired of hearing this ignorance posted all over the site. Macs are ⅓ of their business. Stop with the ridiculous drama.


http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/sessions/
While I echo your sentiment, I can't help thinking that you guys that are involved in macrumors should start moderating these places for a change and turn the forums into a climate conducive to rational discussion instead of the parody that these forums have turned into, being only a notch above the constant apple bashing (low level and misinformed) that happens in engadget type threads.

So you haven't watched the keynote, but you are an expert on things Apple?
He is an expert in sweet f.a., but he specialises in berating apple. He is a long time poster here who will consistently say something negative and derisive. Apparently he is in very good terms with the moderating here and thus nothing is ever done about him, and, people like you and me take the bait and respond (I don't anymore, I used to). I really don't know why someone is allowed to constantly vent out in the forums, you would think that a shrink would be the best option for all of us. Because it might not be explicitly outside of forum rules, but this constant derision by this guy is to say the least grating.

Whoa, whoa fellas...don't distract a die-hard hater with little trivialities like the facts. That really tends to mess with their worldview where Steve Jobs is an evil tyrant and Apple will eventually enslave us all inside their insidious walled garden of death. :rolleyes:

Exactly, but (and this is an important "but") there really shouldn't be any place for these types in the forums, it does a disservice to everyone in the community here, everyone. If someone wants to project their hatred on Steve Jobs (their projections stemming from their family, their boyfriend, society...whatever, and we all project some extent of hate on way or the other outwards) who in their warped mind has taken colossal Stalinist proportions then they really shouldn't be doing it in these forums.
 
The fact that you think it is somehow reflective on Apple quality that they had problems with a product demo in a room where hundreds of people were operating their own MiFi access points shows how little you understand technology and how little credence your opinions on such matters should be given from this point forward.

How dare Apple not rewrite the laws of nature and warp the electromagnetic spectrum to Steve's will! :rolleyes:

Apple had tons of Macs demos in that room and never had a problem with their WIFI.

Or Steve could have turned on its 3G or 4G whatever the stupid iPhone 4 has. Or do you think that's available only on the 24th? :rolleyes:
 
Apple had tons of Macs demos in that room and never had a problem with their WIFI.

Or Steve could have turned on its 3G or 4G whatever the stupid iPhone 4 has. Or do you think that's available only on the 24th? :rolleyes:

The rise of the personal mobile wireless access point (MiFi) is a fairly recent phenomenon.

The iPhone 4 doesn't use 4G, and using AT&T's EDGE/3G wouldn't have exactly loaded the New York Times mobile site fast enough to allow him to make his point.

Try doing just a bare minimum of research before ignorantly spouting off next time. Kthxbai. :rolleyes:
 
The rise of the personal mobile wireless access point (MiFi) is a fairly recent phenomenon.

The iPhone 4 doesn't use 4G, and using AT&T's EDGE (3G) wouldn't have exactly loaded the New York Times mobile site fast enough to allow him to make his point.

Try doing just a bare minimum of research before ignorantly spouting off next time. Kthxbai. :rolleyes:

WTF are you talking about? I have a 3G AT&T modem card for my MBP. I use that card EVERYDAY and the Internet is more than fast enough.

If you are downloading and huge file than you want an high-speed WIFI connection instead of 3G. However otherwise the 3G is fine! Steve Jobs was only trying to get the New York Times to load.

I suggest that YOU do simple research before you talk again. And quit being an Apple apologist.
 
Originally Posted by AidenShaw
(And, BTW, where did you get the statistics to say that there were hundreds of MiFi access points in the room?)

So you haven't watched the keynote, but you are an expert on things Apple?

I didn't know that adulation and rote memorization of all statements by Jobs were a requirement for posting here. Since the reports on the keynote said that it was "all Iphone, all the time" - I had no interest in wasting the hours to watch it.

Also, please tell me where, in any post, I've made anything close to a claim of being an Apple expert. You are projecting something that I have never even implied.

Overall, your post is an overreaction to a simple, neutral question about the statistics. If instead of "BTW" I had said "from what part of your butt did you pull those numbers" your tone would understandable - but a simple "BTW"? Come on.
 
I think we should stick to the topic rather than to personal abuse if we consider having an informative discusion.:(
 
This is a damn embarrassment!

Get a clue Apple, your precious brand-new iPhone 4 isn't all that "revolutionary“ either. Similar technologies are ALREADY out there for smartphones. If I see that damn stupid video where Ive and other Apple excs falling all over themselves trying to convince people that the iPhone 4 is the greatest thing since sliced bread or whatever, I'll literally throw up.

Plain and simple, if Apple continues this then I won't be an Apple customer. I've been a customer literally since the bringing with the Apple II PLUS. I just love their computers!

Sure I completely understand why Apple wanted to get in the mobile business there's mega bucks there. However NOT in expense of neglecting their great computers!

Um what? Are you forgetting that the computers just had shows too? Computers will have shows, then idevices will have shows, and it goes back and forth like it has for a long time.

Right now, there is an industry wide shortage of intels latest chips which would completely explain a lack of mac pros.
 
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