This is the reasoning that I just don't follow (and I've heard it from others, too.) To my thinking, it's exactly the non-pro users that need the variety of ports. Pro users know that if the device only has USB-C, they're going to need to accommodate that. But when grandma and grandpa pull the SD card out of their camera to put the pics of the grandkids on their shiny new tangerine iMac, they stare at the back and think "where does this go?" The casual office user that uses a MacBook Pro (last gen) in their office, but isn't a pro user, goes into a conference room, looks at the HDMI connector for the display and scratches their head "Can someone call IT and see if they have a connector?" There are a ton of use cases where I think it is exactly the non-pro user that needs the broader functionality that some seem to think "caters to Pro users." I don't see how maximum versatility is exclusively "Pro."
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Apple Designing More Functional Products Since Jony Ive's Departure, Argues Bloomberg Reporter
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you‘d be an idiot to not realize most of them credited to the momentum and legacy from the unrivaled UX design left behind by Steve Jobs era. The iconic icon based UX navigation system did not change much in past 10 years despite drastic visual design step back.
On the other hand, competitors like google android are so bad that Apple‘s dominance never got really challenged in anyway. But Apple could have been done way better by ditching Jonmy Ive
or rather they are nice to look at but you would never like to drive them on an roads not perfectly maintained
I am thinking that these people are even less likely to need to plug something in. They are probably not going to hook up a second monitor, or have an array of accessories. At most, they need to plug in a flash drive to access files and documents.
At the same time, Apple envisions people using iMacs in places where they can be seen (evidenced by the variety of colours, the thinness and the choice of screen size) rather than just on a desk with the back facing a wall).
So in a sense, I find that non-pro users have less baggage, in that there’s fewer features we consider indispensable, and this may make them more amenable to having features taken away, especially if they never really needed them in the first place.
They removed the “MacBook Pro” label at the bottom of the screen and replaced it with the unmistakable Apple Notch. Simply brilliant.
Ivy is anti ports of any kind. He wanted the phones to be a flat slab of glass. No bumps, no ports, no buttons.
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Maybe, but there's a long ways to go.
Where are upgradeable RAM and SSD? There's as little reason to have those soldered to the motherboard as there is to have a notch on the laptop screen.
Where are upgradeable RAM and SSD? There's as little reason to have those soldered to the motherboard as there is to have a notch on the laptop screen.
yes, pure laziness. one dongle, i have one dongle that accomplishes 4k60, 1GbE, usb-c, 100w usb-c pd, 2x usb-a, sd, & micro sd. it's made by anker and i got it for about $60.
the new mb in all its infinite wonder however mired by a useless hdmi port, claims to support a bunch of external displays as well as a 4k tv all at once. except to actually take advantage of the 4k120 panel i have, i *STILL* need to use a usb-c dongle anyway since the magical hdmi port people whined about doesnt support *current* standards.
if "pros" can't "keep track" of or "carry" a single dongle, im not sure how they're handling their hyper-detailed work in photography or video editing.
"no need to track dongles"...holy crap. this is supposed to be a product for the upper echelon of pc users....and they cant be held responsible for a dongle...
Well, I'm just going to chalk this up to opinion journalism. 🤷♂️ There doesn't seem to be a single Apple product with a battery in which the battery isn't glued to the case. We had to live with a badly designed keyboard for a few years that is still only moderately improved (where's that key travel?). Plus a Touch Bar that nobody really wanted with a disappearing escape key that only was recently restored. And now we have a notch bisecting the menubar (why...?). It seems like Apple is more about form over function these days.
The iPad Pro bezels are 6mm. The new MBP has 3.5mm bezels. Would you rather have 6mm bezels on the MBP with no notch? Would mean either less screen real estate or even bigger and heavier laptops.
I would. There's nothing wrong with a thicker bezel. But I suppose it's just personal preference. It wouldn't necessarily mean a smaller screen either.
And I don't mind a heavier laptop.
It is probably coming to the iPad though. It seems to be more of a design choice than anything of practical value. You're right, the notch isn't really needed. It being there killed my desire to upgrade my 2016 MBP.
It is not buying the adapters that is the issue. It is the fact that you need to buy them in the first place.
I am one of those professionals who use a Mac every day. The fact that I have to buy adaptors and 2 make sure they are with me when I head out is an issue. Compare that with my older 2015 mac book pro yes I had a hub but I would not be completely crippled if I forgot it or was at a place with out it. On my current MacBook Pro I am crippled if I leave one of my adaptors. It means I am without say hdmi port or access to usb A. It is rough. It was never about the cost of the adaptors is the about the fact you have to use them to make the computer functional.
He still works for Apple,..just not as an employee. His design firm was hired by Apple & still is, Lol..You're right, the article is baseless clickbait.
I don't...! He was a loose cannon after Jobs died...
Yeah, there were plenty of reports of criticisms from inside Apple that Ive had been phoning it in and generally ****ing about for years. Of course, when you’re paid what he was that’s still his failure, but it is a different kind of failure.
Here’s a thing that Ive designed.
I HATE IT
Here’s a thing he didn’t design.
I LOVE IT
Oh, wait, I had those swapped, sorry.
NOW I LOVE THE FIRST ONE AND HATE THE SECOND
Actually, yeah, I had them right from the start.
OK THEN BACK TO MY ORIGINAL STATEMENTS
I HATE IT
Here’s a thing he didn’t design.
I LOVE IT
Oh, wait, I had those swapped, sorry.
NOW I LOVE THE FIRST ONE AND HATE THE SECOND
Actually, yeah, I had them right from the start.
OK THEN BACK TO MY ORIGINAL STATEMENTS
The design may not be as good, but the function is by far better. Yes, Jony Ive had a huge say in the design, but thinnovation is a disaster.
The 16 inch MacBook Pro that replaced the 15” has a smaller screen? Thanks, didn’t know that.
The old 16" replaced the 15". The new 16" with the notch has more screen real estate than the old 16". Wash, rinse, repeat for the 14" vs the 13"
It will probably leave the macbook sooner or later but yeah luckily the iphone will remain to have notch for a couple of years. Without it, it doesnt seem like a real iphone yet, imo the notch is part of it