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Apple Details Five Patents Violated by Samsung Galaxy S4 and Google Now
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1) Siri doesn't work well at all and the voice is awful. And it was far from the first voice UI. So, not sure why someone would copy it.
2) "universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system."
...really, Apple. Really?
How much money are you gonna waste on frivolous lawsuits? Meanwhile OSX languishes b/c you don't have enough devs for it and iOS. Mac Pro sees zero innovation. iCloud is a horrible mess for developers.
Spend money on getting your ***** together. Not lawyers.
http://carpeaqua.com/2013/05/16/everything-apple-needs-to-introduce-at-wwdc-to-appease-the-internet/
Google doesn't consider patents meaningless. After putting out Android, they immediately gobbled up a ton of patents from IBM and Motorola to protect themselves in case they get sued
Only thing is nobody's suing Google. The OEM's are the ones having to go to court
That's pretty interesting, don't you think?
You have read most of these patents, right? Most software patents are so vaguely defined, you practically can't make an electronic device with an onscreen GUI without infringing upon 15 of them.
I predict we're gonna see yet another round of invalidated Apple patents. Not because Apple sucks, and they deserve it. Or they're awesome, and Google steals or whatever. It's because they're all playing the same dumb game, which ends up being a giant waste of time and effort for everyone involved 95% of the time.
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YEEEAAAHHH!
Seriously, all this stuff aside I must say, that as an Android user, I KNOW Apple can do better.
I'd rather have an iPhone that has useful innovative (or at the very least fresh takes on old tech) features that make the device something that would never leave my side.
Sadly, I am about to replace my iPad with a Note 8. The Note 8 is AWFUL . . . . but I would actually USE it . . . . . everyday . . . . . for REAL WORK.
Please, let me take it slower.
I do not like the Note 8's interface or industrial design.
I'd like to use the Note 8 simply because it has useful features that I use everyday with my Note II.
The features make the ugly tablet not-so-bad.
How hard is it for Apple to trump that?
Stop with the incremental updates and give us something fresh.
I'd rather have an iPhone that has useful innovative (or at the very least fresh takes on old tech) features that make the device something that would never leave my side.
Sadly, I am about to replace my iPad with a Note 8. The Note 8 is AWFUL . . . . but I would actually USE it . . . . . everyday . . . . . for REAL WORK.
Please, let me take it slower.
I do not like the Note 8's interface or industrial design.
I'd like to use the Note 8 simply because it has useful features that I use everyday with my Note II.
The features make the ugly tablet not-so-bad.
How hard is it for Apple to trump that?
Stop with the incremental updates and give us something fresh.
Geofencing: nope. And iOS was one of the few mobile OSs that actually didn't have a voice assistant when it was first launched. Blackberry'd had one for years and Google also had it before Apple decided to intro it to iOS
Could that be as google give it away for free bar the gapps. Which begs the question is it really about ip if your chasing the money ?
I don't think giving it away for free does much of anything. It's not like I can make a perfect replica of an iPhone, mass produce it, hand it out to thousands of people on the street, and get away with it.
If anything, I believe it's Apple wanting to play a proxy game. Sue the OEMs to make licensing Android look like a risky venture on their part, then go for Google directly once they have a few legal wins under their belt. Unfortunately for them, it hasn't worked out quite the way they planned.
If anything, I believe it's Apple wanting to play a proxy game. Sue the OEMs to make licensing Android look like a risky venture on their part, then go for Google directly once they have a few legal wins under their belt. Unfortunately for them, it hasn't worked out quite the way they planned.
Samsung fans are also keeping their fingers crossed...hoping some of those new iOS 7 features make it to the S5.
Not really. At this point iPhone customers are hoping that some of Samsung's advancements make it into iOS 7.
the original Galaxy S was pretty much a blatant ripoff of the iPhone. But at this point, the S4 is light years beyond the iPhone 5. It's so far ahead that to even insinuate that the S4 infringes on Apple's patents is ludicrous. The iPhone 5 is only barely ahead of the original iPhone in advancements.
I remember having voice recognition software that was supposed to do stuff like this back on my Casio casseopaia
and yes. This sums it up.
Just because one tech company can figure out how to do it better than the next, doesn't mean they automagically get the exclusive rights to do it forever.
But Siri was an independent company that Apple acquired, it may have come with some patents that would predate Google's efforts.
Oracle sued Google and lost. I thought they should have won. Google clearly stole and copied code directly from Sun's Java. They even had emails where a Google employee recommended licensing the code. And Oracle still lost. I cannot believe that!
I believe these claims are included in the group of narrowed claims requested by the judge. That would indicate these are among the strongest and most easily documented claims of those originally filed. Apple will do its homework and did win the last suit. Prior art is considered by the patent office when reviewing and providing patents. So the fact that some may point to what they consider earlier application of the methods and systems described in the patent, it is unlikely that is actually the case. Samsung will more likely argue that they use a different approach that is not covered by the patent. The case will likely hinge on that.
Some may be unhappy with Siri, but apparently, according to Apple, that did not stop key elements of it from being copied. (An aside, Siri works very well for me, put that is not important to Apple's case.) Apple having gone through one case, will be very prepared for the next. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Some may be unhappy with Siri, but apparently, according to Apple, that did not stop key elements of it from being copied. (An aside, Siri works very well for me, put that is not important to Apple's case.) Apple having gone through one case, will be very prepared for the next. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
So they are suing Google over Google Now but still allow Google to offer the Google Search app in the app store which contains the Google Now functionality?
I hope the patents are a bit more specific than the quoted segments, because otherwise these sound like they would cover just about every computer or program ever made!
As an iPhone customer, there's actually nothing that Samsung offers that I hope to make it in iOS 7. That is not to say there aren't some things Android offers that I wouldn't mind seeing. But quite frankly I'd buy a GS4 only to run stock Android (thanks Google!).
Again, patents these days are written vaguely as to protect against too narrow a scope. The actual implementation can be quite specific, but the patent is written in a way as to protect the IP.
No, Oracle sued Google. Reason why Apple won't sue Google is because they've violated patents too, Google now owns those patents via The Motorola acquisition and the outcome of a trial would probably be cross-licensing which doesn't help Apple in its attempt to kill Android.
Which means they're gonna continue suing the OEM's even though the OEM's didn't create the OS