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As an iPhone customer, there's actually nothing that Samsung offers that I hope to make it in iOS 7. That is not to say there aren't some things Android offers that I wouldn't mind seeing. But quite frankly I'd buy a GS4 only to run stock Android (thanks Google!).



Again, patents these days are written vaguely as to protect against too narrow a scope. The actual implementation can be quite specific, but the patent is written in a way as to protect the IP.

I guess if you're not a Touch Wiz fan, you could buy the Nexus S4 version that's coming out. It seems like it'd be a pretty good phone. Awesome S4 hardware without all the Samsung bloat on top of it.
 
Interesting that they are suing SAMSUNG over GOOGLE NOW but not for S-Voice.

That's because any lawsuit targeting Samsung is really targeting Google. Any new service that Google sticks on Android that may infringe on Apple patents, expect Apple to go after Samsung for it.

This is how Apple has been attacking Google in mobile - by going after its OEM's. Same with Microsoft
 
Not really. At this point iPhone customers are hoping that some of Samsung's advancements make it into iOS 7.

Really? You talked to very single iPhone owner out there? Wow. It must have taken a while, huh?

You didn't talk to me, because I don't want any Samsung "advancements" on my next iPhone. Perhaps I would be interested in some HTC "advancements", but there is nothing in the latest Samsung models that interests me.
 
So they patented:

universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system
Looking up information on a computer system. Really? I'm pretty sure all computers do that. Even old less-smart phones had a search to get contacts and such. It just wasn't one-textbox to search everything-at-once. BUT... computers and PIM's have been doing that for years.

It's not just a web page search or a contacts search. It's bringing all of these TOGETHER. You type in 'Bird' and your contact, Larry Bird, comes up, right next to your application 'Angry Birds', right next to pictures of birds, right next to your appointment at the Bird club.

If Apple was the first to develop this and patent this, and others are doing it, shame on them. This is the way the patent system works. And I agree, the patent system needs to be fixed.

graphical user interface using historical lists with field classes
Auto-complete showing historic entries. Really? Every browser since 1995 does that. Heck even some old less-smart phones did that.

This seems like auto-complete. But this is for synchronization of this auto-complete across devices, not just one computer. Again, this seems so simple, but if Apple was the first one with this idea, then it IS PATENTABLE. I would like to see the defense on this, and who was first with this idea.

asynchronous data synchronization amongst devices
Your device syncs up with other similar devices via a cloud or something. Not really innovation.

The data syncs up 'automatically' without you clicking a SYNC button. Clicking the SYNC button was common in the past.

System and method for performing an action on a structure in computer-generated data
This is the only one I can't tell what they're saying. From a larger description it sounds like passing data-structure to a server, using that structured data to do something, and return it. That sounds like old-hat stuff as well, but I could be reading it incorrectly.

I agree - seems too generic.

With all of these, if Apple is the first, and can prove it in court, they will win, regardless of the fact that these seem so 'simple'. That's the way the system works, which is sad sometimes.
 
Google clearly stole and copied code directly from Sun's Java.

What code they directly copied? Apart of 9 lines of a function wrote by a Google employee

They even had emails where a Google employee recommended licensing the code.

Can you link to that email?


And Oracle still lost. I cannot believe that!

Well, looking at your knowledge about the case, it is not strange that you can't believe it. Another different thing is reality
 
As an iPhone customer, there's actually nothing that Samsung offers that I hope to make it in iOS 7. That is not to say there aren't some things Android offers that I wouldn't mind seeing. But quite frankly I'd buy a GS4 only to run stock Android (thanks Google!).

Again, patents these days are written vaguely as to protect against too narrow a scope. The actual implementation can be quite specific, but the patent is written in a way as to protect the IP.

I am not a Samsung fan, but the major two reasons I don't use an iPhone is because of a 4.7" 1080P screen and two front facing speakers. (HTC One).

I remember when BB got sued by a patent holding company over transmitting email over a cellular radio.
 
What code they directly copied? Apart of 9 lines of a function wrote by a Google employee

Who was also a Sun employee at one point, and was responsible for writing those same 9 lines of code there.

Google ended up losing a little bit of money because that one guy plagiarized his own programming shorthand. And yes, before anyone else comes in to educate me, I am well aware that it's Oracle's IP regardless of who wrote it, and they had the right...blah blah blah. Software patents are dumb.

Lastly, anyone who brings up Google copying Java should really consider educating themselves. That case was an absolutely spectacular loss on Oracle's part.
 
If they violated the patents, Apple has every legal right to battle them in court. That's why you pay so much money for patents.

Sorry but in this case, no. Is such a vague patent that Apple should have never been issued it.

America: you are broken. Fix your damn patent system or close it down.
 
This seems like auto-complete. But this is for synchronization of this auto-complete across devices, not just one computer. Again, this seems so simple, but if Apple was the first one with this idea, then it IS PATENTABLE. I would like to see the defense on this, and who was first with this idea.

Re-read the patent. No where does it mention integration across multiple devices. It's just says that the information can be shared across multiple applications...which Google has been doing for quite a while (autocomplete across their search, mail, etc.).
 
Re-read the patent. No where does it mention integration across multiple devices. It's just says that the information can be shared across multiple applications...which Google has been doing for quite a while (autocomplete across their search, mail, etc.).

if it's that vague,

Microsoft's been doing it since they introduced OLE into office back in what... windows 3.1 days.. i cant honestly put a date on it. it's been that long ago.
 
if it's that vague,

Microsoft's been doing it since they introduced OLE into office back in what... windows 3.1 days.. i cant honestly put a date on it. it's been that long ago.

Indeed, it is that vague.

A data input technique for a computer that provides the user with a historical list of potential choices for the data input is described. A historical list is displayed to the user so that the user can input data by selecting an item from the historical list being displayed. The historical list contains the most recently and/or frequently used data values for the data field that the user is inputting data. Preferably, the historical list is displayed over a form also being displayed that requires the data input into its one or more of its fields. By using the historical lists a user is able to enter data with a greater ease of use than previously obtainable. The historical can also be shared between different applications that execute on the computer system concurrently or at different times. By sharing the data between applications, the historical list becomes more useful and valuable to the user and thereby further improves the ease of use of the computer system. The data input technique can be implemented numerous ways, including as a system, an apparatus, a graphical user interface, or a method, or as a computer readable medium.
 
Really? You talked to very single iPhone owner out there? Wow. It must have taken a while, huh?

You didn't talk to me, because I don't want any Samsung "advancements" on my next iPhone. Perhaps I would be interested in some HTC "advancements", but there is nothing in the latest Samsung models that interests me.

Agreed, not the least of which is the scroll through text with your eyes gimmick.
 
I guess if you're not a Touch Wiz fan, you could buy the Nexus S4 version that's coming out. It seems like it'd be a pretty good phone. Awesome S4 hardware without all the Samsung bloat on top of it.

There's no such thing as a "nexus s4"
There is however, a Google edition s4 running AOSP
 
um nice Apple. How about this. Create better more innovative items before anyone else does. THEN if/when someone copies some feature like say "searching the web" you will have something else better and no one will want that anymore because you did that years ago. Then it wont even matter!
 
Patents '604 and '959 cover a "universal interface for retrieval of information in a computer system."

My god... when will this crap ever end? These aren't inventions.

How much more vague can this be?

You know that is not the full extent of the patent and that is only a high level description, right?
 
If they hire good engineers, then yeah.

Define what is "good engineer"? Steve Jobs was neither engineer nor he was good in engineering lol

Also tell me why you think Apple does not have plenty of engineers?

Think and then answer because you do not know what you are talking!

You can say - Apple needs to find and buyout those great innovative creative minds out there in the world and throw the work onto engineers who work like a dogs(yes dogs because they work for salary- they are not entrepreneurs) to make that product!
 
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