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Apple Details What to Do If Vision Pro Causes Visual Discomfort, Motion Sickness and More
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People have thought about that with screens for decades. I was told constantly I was going to ruin my eyes as a kid being a gamer and programmer. My eyes are 20/20 and the best in my family.
...and many of us are on glasses with progressively deteriorating eyesight
One of us alone does not make a studied result
You think anyone spending this much doesn’t already know the experience they will get? We can use the meta quest in a similar way. I
he don’t even have it. It’s just a fake box.
Yes - I absolutely think that
Apple doing an entry in this space is unquestionably drawing in buyers that had no interest in VR-ish offerings from other companies to this point.
I have friends who think this entire concept is brand new simply because Apple is now involved
For some it will cause motion sickness and there will be no fix. Others, or probably the majority will get over it pretty quickly, some will not. I have a few friends and we use the Quest 2 for VR and some feel nothing any more, others can't do the fast moving stuff like a flight simulator without feeling sick.
And screens caused that? People’s eye sight goes bad all the time well before screens were invented. I am hardly the only use case. All of my friends that grew up gamers have perfect vision.
I’ll inverse the argument since the claim is it will ruin our eyes. Is there studies or proof of that happening or is this just an assumption?
Screens are different as they are correctly placed in physical world.
AR/VR is different as the screens are in front of your eyes physically but you are looking at things differently (ie. your eyes focus in a completely different way).
I don't know if its bad but we shall see. Most people report that they can't do VR/AR for a very long time so that already says something. I think the eyestrain will be brutal on these things
AR/VR is different as the screens are in front of your eyes physically but you are looking at things differently (ie. your eyes focus in a completely different way).
I don't know if its bad but we shall see. Most people report that they can't do VR/AR for a very long time so that already says something. I think the eyestrain will be brutal on these things
It’s good to question it for sure, but we’re operating on assumptions that obviously a concern that everyone has. That would also mean there would have been an immense amount of research to ensure it doesn’t. Plus I have been using VR for 8 years now and still no eye issues. And many many many other people have also been using VR for the better part of a decade and I have yet to see anyone mention it ruined their eyes.
This thing seems less appealing the more I read about it. A technological accomplishment for sure, but so is the Large Hadron Collider and I don’t want one of those either.
I’d need a break every 20 mins too if you told me to strap a brick to my face.
I’ve never seen such a wealth of disclaimers. If that doesn’t convince you this product will flop I don’t know what will.
I’ve never seen such a wealth of disclaimers. If that doesn’t convince you this product will flop I don’t know what will.
I still can't believe the title on that Vanity Fair piece about AVP
Referencing it as a "moon shot" is honestly disrespectful to the actual race to the moon.
There is zero comparison to be made between the two
Referencing it as a "moon shot" is honestly disrespectful to the actual race to the moon.
There is zero comparison to be made between the two
In and of itself, it shouldn't have a negative effect. Prolonged use without a break, like anything else, is not good.
Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Apple Vision Pro.
Caution: Apple Vision Pro may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
Apple Vision Pro contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.
Do not use Apple Vision Pro on concrete.
Discontinue use of Apple Vision Pro if any of the following occurs:
Apple Vision Pro may stick to certain types of skin.
When not in use, Apple Vision Pro should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Apple Vision Pro, Apple, of any and all liability.
Ingredients of Apple Vision Pro include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
Apple Vision Pro has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
Do not taunt Apple Vision Pro.
Apple Vision Pro comes with a lifetime warranty. 🍏🔍✨
Caution: Apple Vision Pro may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
Apple Vision Pro contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.
Do not use Apple Vision Pro on concrete.
Discontinue use of Apple Vision Pro if any of the following occurs:
- Itching
- Vertigo
- Dizziness
- Tingling in extremities
- Loss of balance or coordination
- Slurred speech
- Temporary blindness
- Profuse sweating
- Heart palpitations
Apple Vision Pro may stick to certain types of skin.
When not in use, Apple Vision Pro should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Apple Vision Pro, Apple, of any and all liability.
Ingredients of Apple Vision Pro include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
Apple Vision Pro has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
Do not taunt Apple Vision Pro.
Apple Vision Pro comes with a lifetime warranty. 🍏🔍✨
Extended use of Apple Vision Pro could have adverse effects on cognition
A Stanford study of extended use of headsets like Apple Vision Pro shows that users could encounter real-world aftereffects like depth perception issues or simulator sickness.
Also, there’s a HUGE difference between a computer monitor or a tv than screens that a approximately an inch from your eyes.
Where in the heck is the battery supposed to be that's well ventilated? There's no clip or anything to attach it to, and it's as smooth as a river stone. Yeah you can buy an optional clip for fifty dollars (plus tax) or you can put it in your pocket. What other options are there? Seriously asking, what do they suggest people do with it when you demo it at the Apple Store?
While many here would have apparently preferred the title Waterloo, years of pushing existing technology toward a goal feels apropos.
There are just some nasty comments in here. Everything listed here is common among all headsets. Some people get used to it and the motion sickness and the like goes away, others don't. Early reviewers all stated that they didn't get motion sickness and some (like iJustine) mentioned how she gets sick on other headsets but doesn't with this one. Apple even touched on this during the Vision Pro announcement stating it was due to their high refresh rate.
Ok - be honest now -- truly, hand on your grandparents grave honest --
Do you really think iJustine, of all people, would publicly say out loud that the Apple version of this type of device was causing her issues (like motion sickness)?
Honestly -- truly -- do you believe that?
Short answer: return it.
Following the launch of the Vision Pro, Apple has published a number of support documents on how to use the device and what to do if motion sickness or discomfort is experienced when wearing the headset.
Visual Discomfort
Vision Pro users who experience visual discomfort such as blurry vision, double vision, dry eyes, watery eyes, light sensitivity, and eye strain should stop using Vision Pro and wait for symptoms to resolve.
To minimize visual discomfort, Apple says that a good fit is essential, with pressure balanced across the nose and cheeks and the proper alignment set up. Vision Pro should be used in short increments of time to start with, and Apple recommends regular breaks every 20 to 30 minutes.
Apple also says that keeping the head upright rather than tilted to one side or another and sitting upright while watching 3D movies, immersive media, or spatial video can help.
Alignment
Vision Pro was designed to "accommodate a range" of inter-pupillary distances, but Apple says that some people who fall outside of this range could experience visual discomfort using the headset.
Safety Recommendations
Apple recommends that people with certain conditions use caution when using Vision Pro.
The headset should be used in a "controlled" indoor or outdoor space that is free of obstacles that could be tripped over or hit with hands. Apple warns that doorknobs and cabinets could catch the power cable and cause it to disconnect.
Vision Pro should not be used in extreme temperatures, rain, fog, or moisture of any kind, and water damage is not covered under the warranty. Vision Pro should also be used in a well-lit area for the best experience, as low-light conditions can increase the risk of object collisions.
Battery
The Vision Pro battery should be kept in a well-ventilated area so that it does not get excessively warm.
Motion Sickness
A "small number of people" may experience motion sickness when using Vision Pro. Symptoms include dizziness, nausea, decreased awareness, upset stomach, increased salivation, headache, fatigue, and sweating. Apple says that it can take up to 30 minutes for symptoms to start.
Those experiencing motion sickness should stop using the headset, and should not use Vision Pro while on an airplane. Using the device for short increments of time and with less immersive experiences can help.
To minimize motion sickness, Apple says that users should reduce head motion and move the head and neck as little as possible. Apple also recommends reducing visual motion by decreasing window sizes, reducing the level of immersion, and turning on the Reduce Motion setting in the Accessibility section of Settings.
High motion experiences like Apple Immersive Media should also be avoided by those who get motion sick, as should spatial video with a lot of movement.
Article Link: Apple Details What to Do If Vision Pro Causes Visual Discomfort, Motion Sickness and More
Most people who say they can't use VR/AR for a long time say that because of weight/pressure on the head/face, or nausea, not because of eye strain.
Nausea is mostly due to nauseating content, not the properties of the device. Most people will be perfectly comfortable with floating windows (in regards to motion sickness). But many people will get nauseous while watching 3D movies, just like they'd get nauseous watching the same movie in a theater.
The nausea comes from your brain expecting different things throughout the body than it's getting vs the optical input being received by the brain.
It's not at all clear what will/won't cause that for folks with this particular device.