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Good Advice Apple, but its common sense not to buy one. I get motion sickness, and never had any interest in vr or 3D TV.
VR content can be less nauseating than content on a traditional monitor. For example, I've been playing a VR mini golf game. The world is perfectly steady in VR (as long as you use teleport for movement). You look around the scene by moving your head, just like you'd look around a scene in real life. But on a flat screen, you'd need to rotate the view by moving your mouse, which will likely be more nauseating.
 
Translation: everything is great, my worry is just my worry.

Sure, lets see. There are already articles supporting my worry so maybe you need to stop defending Apple/AR/VR and maybe consider those too.

Regardless, time will tell.

Most people who say they can't use VR/AR for a long time say that because of weight/pressure on the head/face, or nausea, not because of eye strain.
Nausea is mostly due to nauseating content, not the properties of the device. Most people will be perfectly comfortable with floating windows (in regards to motion sickness). But many people will get nauseous while watching 3D movies, just like they'd get nauseous watching the same movie in a theater.
 
Nope - that's not how that works
Brain has no issue there as the plane of the screen is flat and your normal physical environment cues are in place as normal.
Uh, lots of people get nauseous from flat screen games. I personally don't now, except in more extreme situations (in a car racing game I play, one of the cars has a very tight turning radius, so I get some mild nausea).
In the late 90's when I first played a game on my new 3DFX graphics accelerator, I got extremely nauseous, and even after I stopped playing the nausea stayed with me for like an hour.
 
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Translation: everything is great, my worry is just my worry.

Sure, lets see. There are already articles supporting my worry so maybe you need to stop defending Apple/AR/VR and maybe consider those too.

Regardless, time will tell.
I'm not dismissing the possibility that some people will experience eyestrain, but you said:

Most people report that they can't do VR/AR for a very long time so that already says something. I think the eyestrain will be brutal on these things
I see no evidence that most people can't use AR/VR for a long time specifically due to eyestrain. And most of the time when people say they can't use it for very long, the mention face/head comfort or nausea.
 
Feeling nauseous has been a problem with Virtual Reality for decades, but the funny thing is: It has been solved by the army years ago.

Pilotes in training noticed getting really sick in VR. Until they realised: humans stay balanced using our nose. Your nose is always in field of view, even if you're not directly looking at it. Your brain filters it out of course, but when you can't see your nose (because of VR glasses) you get disoriented.

So, the solution is: bring in a virtual nose. Display it on the screen at all times. That works. Your brain is used to that and will filter it out anyway.

I find it strange that Apple didn't implement that. Maybe someone tell them?
 
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"VR motion sickness is a common problem many people who use immersive technologies face. It can affect up to 70 per cent of first-time users within just 15 minutes of their experience."

Just part of the game I am afraid.

I wonder how Mac and iPhone adoption would've fared if it caused 70% of people nausea the first time they used it
 
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Well, I think this is great. I’m not in a rush to get one right now, but y’know what? Eventually SOMEBODY will make a great one. I look forward to it!
 
Feeling nauseous has been a problem with Virtual Reality for decades, but the funny thing is: It has been solved by the army years ago.

Pilotes in training noticed getting really sick in VR. Until they realised: humans stay balanced using our nose. Your nose is always in field of view, even if you're not directly looking at it. Your brain filters it out of course, but when you can't see your nose (because of VR glasses) you get disoriented.

So, the solution is: bring in a virtual nose. Display it on the screen at all times. That works. Your brain is used to that and will filter it out anyway.

I find it strange that Apple didn't implement that. Maybe someone tell them?
Can I pick from different noses? And not just by color…I want an alien nose!
 
Now does that sound like something you want to use?
Yes! Just not yet.
Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly, and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Apple Vision Pro.

Caution: Apple Vision Pro may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.

Apple Vision Pro contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.

Do not use Apple Vision Pro on concrete.

Discontinue use of Apple Vision Pro if any of the following occurs:

  • Itching
  • Vertigo
  • Dizziness
  • Tingling in extremities
  • Loss of balance or coordination
  • Slurred speech
  • Temporary blindness
  • Profuse sweating
  • Heart palpitations
If Apple Vision Pro begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover your head.

Apple Vision Pro may stick to certain types of skin.

When not in use, Apple Vision Pro should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration. Failure to do so relieves the makers of Apple Vision Pro, Apple, of any and all liability.

Ingredients of Apple Vision Pro include an unknown glowing green substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.

Apple Vision Pro has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.

Do not taunt Apple Vision Pro.

Apple Vision Pro comes with a lifetime warranty. 🍏🔍✨
The itching is the one that would get me to wait. Itching LATER is always better than itching now.
 
Can I pick from different noses? And not just by color…I want an alien nose!
We all know aliens, like Voldemort, don't have noses, so that would not work. Any other nose is fine by me, and I'm apparently in charge of noses. Though, with taking my job as nose manager serious, I strongly recommend using the shape of your own nose, as your brain is already used to that.
 
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No they don’t.
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And screens caused that? People’s eye sight goes bad all the time well before screens were invented. I am hardly the only use case. All of my friends that grew up gamers have perfect vision.

I’ll inverse the argument since the claim is it will ruin our eyes. Is there studies or proof of that happening or is this just an assumption?
 
To me comfort is number one. Even quest 3 with aftermarket super strap gets uncomfortable after 1 hour or so.
The apple vision pro and its last minute afterthought extra strap looks heavy and uncomfortable just like airpods max and its bad case.
 
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I'm assuming this device will increase Myopia.
The focus distance is greater than most non-TV displays that people use. If anything, people will replace some of their use of those other displays with AR/VR headsets, so they'd actually be focusing at a further distance on average.
 
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Always good to stop using it for sometime if one feels any kind of discomfort. Give the eyes a rest.
 
I’d need a break every 20 mins too if you told me to strap a brick to my face.

I’ve never seen such a wealth of disclaimers. If that doesn’t convince you this product will flop I don’t know what will.

Maybe because you don't go looking for them?

Safety information for iPhone
 
Ok - be honest now -- truly, hand on your grandparents grave honest --

Do you really think iJustine, of all people, would publicly say out loud that the Apple version of this type of device was causing her issues (like motion sickness)?

Honestly -- truly -- do you believe that?
Yes. Watch her. She's enthusiastic sure but she does give honest opinions.
 
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I've seen plenty of her
If you think that's a good source of objective information about Apple, I'll have some of what you're having.

She's not the only source of information but she does give real world usage. Her experience with the M2 MacBook Air for example matched exactly my experience with it while other channels like Maxxtech made it sound like the worst machine out there.

And what she mentioned was also found by Lisa at MobileTechReview who probably has the most accurate review of the device I've seen.

That's just one device, there's plenty more.
 
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