Yay, hooray! Hopefully they do develop something very soon. Now that we've grown more in computers and techy stuff, lots of people are now accessing and creating more media and this fits in perfectly.
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Apple Developing a Home Media Server?
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Ugly mock-up:
That's not ugly at all!!!!!!! That's what the xMac cube should look like...except with the Apple logo on the side and maybe a couple tray-loading Blu-Ray drives or three. I know, I know...it shall never be.
Thanks dude. You are the reason this media servers tuff does not advance as fast as it should. Buy your ****, then argue you can use it any way you want. If you are just ripping netflix, then you are stealing.
Let's not go RIAA here and call copyright-infringement "stealing" mmmmmkay?
The fact that you just said that, means that you have swallowed the RIAA bullcrap, hook, line and sinker. It's not stealing. It's copyright-infringement. Staling would be if he walked in to store, did a five-finger discount on a DVD and walked out. THAT is stealing!
No, I'm not trying to defend what he does, since it's still wrong. But he's not stealing anything.
And I'm pretty die-hard about calling things by their real names. And copyright-infringement is NOT stealing. Never has been, and ever will.
It's like if you had a nice Ferrari, and I made an identical copy of it for myself using a matter-replicator, and you then started claiming that I "stole" your car, even though it is still parked in your driveway....
Genius
It appears apple has done their research about our itunes libraries and usage habits through the genius feature of itunes, this way they understand the market and know what we want, the basic fact is that 99% of libraries are expanding some like me are reaching the 1TB limit where itunes slows down.
It appears apple has done their research about our itunes libraries and usage habits through the genius feature of itunes, this way they understand the market and know what we want, the basic fact is that 99% of libraries are expanding some like me are reaching the 1TB limit where itunes slows down.
Here is my Mockup if you will.
I made this based on the mockup earlier in the thread, I really liked the white one but I thought it may look even more sexy in Black (And thus match the majority of home consumer devices and perhaps even the way Apple is headed with their consumer gear).
You may wonder why I added 8 Drives, that is because this is my Mockup and I really love large amounts of storage. All the current NAS's on the market are 1-4 drives then you hit a 'Money Wall' where the prices double or triple to get 6 or 8 drives. I would hope that Apple will do an 8 Drive NAS (if they are doing a NAS at all) however unlikely it would be. So anyway my Dream/Mockup
I made this based on the mockup earlier in the thread, I really liked the white one but I thought it may look even more sexy in Black (And thus match the majority of home consumer devices and perhaps even the way Apple is headed with their consumer gear).
You may wonder why I added 8 Drives, that is because this is my Mockup and I really love large amounts of storage. All the current NAS's on the market are 1-4 drives then you hit a 'Money Wall' where the prices double or triple to get 6 or 8 drives. I would hope that Apple will do an 8 Drive NAS (if they are doing a NAS at all) however unlikely it would be. So anyway my Dream/Mockup
I would say that this is not going to happen because it is already basically the time capsule and they can firmware update it to do these things if they wanted. My setup is all music, tv shows, and movies, applications, podcasts, etc... all on my time capsule. Then I just add those files into iTunes on my MacBook. Then this way everything is streamed and can be accessed on all the computers in the house. Also then when I want to watch something on my apple tv I just start streaming, the time capsule boots up and it plays... Pretty close to a home server if u ask me. Yea it doesn't have sync capabilities with other computers but I can access everything from everywhere in the house. I can also print and backup on the external harddrive connected to the time capsule though a USB hub. Maybe u guys need more but it works great and that's why I don't think they will make a home server. But hey if they do then sweet but my needs are met.
Well, my question is how do you use your AppleTV with your Time Capsule? I thought you had to have iTunes open somewhere for your AppleTV to access these files? Also, how do you sync your iPod/iPhone with that setup? How do you put music/movies on them?
I really would love to see an apple solution; As someone who's bought into apple a lot (4 macs, AEB and expresses, touch and ipod), a central storage point is long overdue.
I'm currently trialling a evaluation version of WHS on some old hardware, and I've also looked at a Linux home server which looks quite promising.
If the rumour is true it's a welcome one. However, given the recent stuff from apple, I've a feeling that even if it's true, I'll be disappointed.
The new HP looks superb value for money and the mac support, even though limited, is a welcome addition. And that's the problem.....
Look at what the Cheap HP offers; 1 x 750gb hotswappable drive with space for three more, 2gb ram, E-sata and 3x USB2 ports. All that for $549. Compare that with a 1tb time capsule at $499.
Still, I'll keep my fingers crossed!
I'm currently trialling a evaluation version of WHS on some old hardware, and I've also looked at a Linux home server which looks quite promising.
If the rumour is true it's a welcome one. However, given the recent stuff from apple, I've a feeling that even if it's true, I'll be disappointed.
The new HP looks superb value for money and the mac support, even though limited, is a welcome addition. And that's the problem.....
Look at what the Cheap HP offers; 1 x 750gb hotswappable drive with space for three more, 2gb ram, E-sata and 3x USB2 ports. All that for $549. Compare that with a 1tb time capsule at $499.
Still, I'll keep my fingers crossed!
Sounds like something Apple would do, make a great product but to have it be useful force a MobileMe subscription on you.
A couple of other advantages over the Time Capsule:
* WHS allows for "Folder Duplication" - if you have two or more drives in the MediaSmart, you can specifiy which shared folders should be duplicated across two drives.
This is essentially RAID-1, but on a per-folder basis. You can choose whether data needs duplication (at double the space usage), or not. (For example keep purchased music duplicated, but not the CD/DVD rips - the CDs are already backups.)
* An external drive can either be added to the storage pool, or used as an external backup device.
If used as an external backup, it can be disconnected and stored offsite. Keep it at the office, parent's or friend's house. In case of fire, theft or other damage to your home - you have a safe copy.
* You can upgrade the 2nd through 4th drives - tell the system to "remove" a drive, then replace it with a larger drive.
Yup! but the point I was making is that apple don't make cheap hardware....
So mock ups of multiple drive Cubes are all well and good, but I can't see it happening at a competitive price
So mock ups of multiple drive Cubes are all well and good, but I can't see it happening at a competitive price
Two words: FAIR USE
Since I do not lease, redistribute, sell access, allow downloading, rent or otherwise share the movies I make copies of, I don't see how this is pirating. Using your definition, copying pages from a book at the library strictly for personal use only would be "pirating content".
Here here. Ripping and converting a DVD is not piracy unless copies are distributed, especially for money. If I want to watch a movie on my Apple TV 10 weeks after the DVD it was ripped from was returned to the video store that is my prerogative. Money has changed hands for the rental so everyone from the video store clerk to the actors in the film get paid and in most cases I would watch the movie once and forget about it. Fair use?
It used to be called fair use before DMCA. He did not say that he was sharing it with other did he!
Thanks dude. You are the reason this media servers tuff does not advance as fast as it should. Buy your ****, then argue you can use it any way you want. If you are just ripping netflix, then you are stealing.
He is buying it. He pays a monthly subscription to Netflix. How many ways do you have to pay for the same content? and why can't you get it in a format that is convenient and useful in today's digital world?
The blatant Drobo rip offs leaves a lot to be desired. Knowing Apple, it will likely be in a antiseptic white theme like their Airport Express/Time Capsule and cost an arm and a leg.
I'm just hoping Apple dazzles us with something a little more original both in design and price point. I guess it's down to this and another home brew server if Apple does not deliver, we'll soon see.
Those HP mediaSmart are pretty expensive as well!
I'm just hoping Apple dazzles us with something a little more original both in design and price point. I guess it's down to this and another home brew server if Apple does not deliver, we'll soon see.
Those HP mediaSmart are pretty expensive as well!
If you had said "in all cases I would watch the movie once and delete it" your analogy works better.
If you don't delete it within <rental-period> days of first watch, your rationalization fails.
$499 for MediaSmart (500 GB with 3 open slots) vs $499 for Time Capsule (1 TB with no slots)? (Drobo - $442 (0 GB with 4 open slots))
A Drobo is just a USB drive with some interesting capabilities. A Home Server is much, much more. Hardly a Drobo clone.
Just what I need but hope it gets a better CPU than the Time Capsule - compared to the regular AEBSn it's a really slow DHCP router. MobileMe could be useful for a handful of tunes but I'd need at least 1TB to keep my films there too (all legal purchases, ripped to file).
Fair use would be you ripping a DVD that you own and converting it to an iPhone compatible format for watching on the road. Ripping and storing 3 months of Netflix for long term storage is not fair use.
This is better, but still not fair use. Its better because you are saying you would watch the movie ONCE (which you paid for) and then forget about it (which hopefully means DELETE.) The problem is the video store is granting you a license (the right) to watch their copy of that movie for the time period it is in your possession, not 10 weeks later, therefore not 100% fair use.
Yes Please
As long as it has the Drobo qualities with at least 4 drive bays that are hot swappable and independent in size, so you don't have to put in 4 x 500 gig or 4x 1 TB to get a raid set up for speed en security.
The bottom line for me would be speed and security since everything will be on that one device and not scatterd all over my mac's and iphone/ipods anymore.
So the thing needs te be solid as a brick ,and fw 800 for full hd playback would be important .
I hope this is true and that apple will doe it in there own way and make me very happy with yet another device .
Data.
As long as it has the Drobo qualities with at least 4 drive bays that are hot swappable and independent in size, so you don't have to put in 4 x 500 gig or 4x 1 TB to get a raid set up for speed en security.
The bottom line for me would be speed and security since everything will be on that one device and not scatterd all over my mac's and iphone/ipods anymore.
So the thing needs te be solid as a brick
,and fw 800 for full hd playback would be important .I hope this is true and that apple will doe it in there own way and make me very happy with yet another device .
Data.