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I think it will become increasingly complex in the future, in all spheres where AI operates… There will huge issues over ownership and IP etc

So we will need more AI lawyers 🤔 digital courts… digital prison 😱
Code written by OpenAI, Copilot etc. belongs to the developer not OpenAI or Microsoft. Apple may try to do their "thing" but who would use their AI then? Not gonna happen. Besides, Apple is so behind in AI, nobody is going to use their tools for a while anyways.
 
that isn’t what happened. apple is currently rushing at light speed to bring you technology they and even google were completely blindsided by.

you’re not seeing patience you’re seeing someone sprinting to make the bus

Ha to be fair what happened to Google was even better, it was the perfect Google thing. They actually had this technology, but they were just ****ing around with it internally and nobody could make a decision what to do with it because no one actually runs Google.
 
Code written by OpenAI, Copilot etc. belongs to the developer not OpenAI or Microsoft.

A subtle but noteworthy point ...the source belongs to the developer if written for themself, otherwise with limited exceptions the source belongs to the developer’s employer.
 
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AI (ChatGPT 4 Turbo specifically) has been the best thing that's happened to me in my 30+ years of being a professional software developer.

I've limited Android experience and what I have is all Java.
Thanks to ChatGPT I'm porting a 1/4million line ObjC iOS app to Android in Kotlin, a language I know nothing about, and after only 6 weeks I'm 50% there. It would normally take me 6 months for a project like this in a new language with limited platform experience.

If it could stay were it is without going AGI, and completely replacing me, then I'd be happy.

Xcode should really be more open to plugins like Android Studio is.
Having said that I did try a AI assistant plugin for Studio but my OpenAI account spending skyrocketed so that wasn't much good as I've gone back to GPT4 on my browser. It's cents I'm spending a day for browser GPT to help me work. Werea's that plugin was double figure dollars.

I've yet to find a LLM as good as GPT4.

Make no mistake though that we're less than a decade away from us just opening our phones and telling Siri/iOS/SiriAGI what kind of App we need and it just writes a bespoke one for you on the fly tailored to your specific needs.

That's fine, I'll have retired (thankfully!) by then...
 
As a systems engineer for the very limited scripting needed, AI does a shockingly efficient job.
It can be amazing. I’m a scientist who does some scripting to support my research. These LLMs have been life changing. I can get elegant scripts put together in minutes to hours where it might have taken some days to do it before. I can generate code using languages I’m not fluent in, like Python, and have it generate what I need to do. It takes some back and forth to iterate but it gets there. This allows me to do things I’d never have done before because I don’t really have the time to learn Python at the moment. It also helps me learn the languages faster because I can see how things are done.

If Apple’s AI tools are good, that will help me generate some free educational apps I’ve been interested in creating. I’d use these for my courses to help my students learn better and have them available to anyone else who wants to learn.
 
This will be awesome. I use GPT-4 API already heavy in engineering, as it is now it’s not the greatest but it really depends on wha you ask. If you ask for a bigger or more sophisticated thing it’ll make up APIs that sound right. But its been great for me at simple shell scripts, stubbing SwiftUI views, coming up with sample data for testing / previews, Asking it API names for things I forgot, asking if APIs exist for certain tings, getting up to speed in other tech quickly by asking for examples I know better in other languages, etc.

Adobe also had genAI in Adobe CC, I’m not sure about Figma or Sketch but its only a matter amount of time before there’s a really complete export UI button, then there will be sophisticated AI that can start gluing it all together. You’ll put your GCP or AWS credentials in and some product designer will be able to roll a feature eventually.

That is until the platforms themselves have enough data to auto generate content, we’ve been so methodically reduced into up next algorithms that we won’t even notice the transition from human made to Apple AI or Google AI or CBS AI or Spotify AI made content and the best part is, it’ll be designed to monetize. If you think TikTok’s ML is addicting this next generation of tooling will leave our brains pure mush and our wallets empty.

From your desk, to your hand, to your wrist, to your face…

Leaving only corporate AIs as the last great bastion of capitalism.

Welcome to 2024.
 
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Some people are scared of what happens to their job if AI can do it.

So I have to worry if Siri can replace me coding? I feel really good about my future 😂
I use github's Copilot for C++ embedded coding and I'm scared every day how good that is. I mean it's not perfect, but besides the code fragments that it generates the guesswork it performs when analyzing what I intend to do is frightening good. Even without any comments it's able to get what I intend to do both locally and on a larger scale.

Feels like pair programming with a genius, and this is only the beginning.
 
I use github's Copilot for C++ embedded coding and I'm scared every day how good that is. I mean it's not perfect, but besides the code fragments that it generates the guesswork it performs when analyzing what I intend to do is frightening good. Even without any comments it's able to get what I intend to do both locally and on a larger scale.

Feels like pair programming with a genius, and this is only the beginning.
I've tried it in a domain I know very well and found that for simple queries it is usually spot on, if I make it a little more complex then odd errors start to creep in and if I drill down further (where you would find no sample code on GitHub) then it completely fails.

At the moment it looks like a tool that is going to help junior developers much more than senior. Who knows what is coming next though. I'm somewhat glad I'm retiring this year.
 
It will all depend on how they’ll implement it. If it’s decent from the start, count me in. I just hope that the features they’ll end up rolling won’t be half-baked or proofs of concepts. They took their time, now they need to show that it was worth it.
I fear it'll be half-baked, but better than nothing. I have the impression Apple was caught flat-footed with popularity of the AI tools.

Also, I guess this means a new subscription for developers, heh.
 
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Good. Hoping they don't charge for it, I will finally ditch opening Safari to use ChatGPT from time to time in my workflow.

And of course it'll be able to use all the latest SDKs from the get go, unlike ChatGPT
 
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My only hope is they will build Shortcut app on AI sterioids and it will be able to build complicated shortcuts based on text input.
That would be pretty dope ! Well they could keep the Shortcuts app as is and just add AI to it which would generate all that pseudo code for you
 
Code written by OpenAI, Copilot etc. belongs to the developer not OpenAI or Microsoft. Apple may try to do their "thing" but who would use their AI then? Not gonna happen. Besides, Apple is so behind in AI, nobody is going to use their tools for a while anyways.
Its not that simple... I think you will find people litigating over the data set where the AI trained itself on to write that code...

Imagine someone writes a very specific piece of code... then someone comes along uses an AI and it regurgitates that same code... a code that has an algorithm for a complex problem...

How would you feel as the original developer who's code has been taken by another developer for monetary gain and who claims to own that code?

I think you would be pretty damn annoyed unless you freely allowed people to take and modify that code.

Its akin to someone taking something from a scientific research paper... and passing it off as their own.. just because an AI service regurgitated it out...

The difference between using AI.. and using other software such as Office, IDE etc is that those software are are not trained on vast datasets of other peoples work. And in any case.. in many fields its customary to indicate what tools were used... like such and such software were used to create such and such model or analysis... so if you report it as an AI platform... well... who's "original data" was used.

It's a legal minefield.
 
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Hope it is better than ChatGPT. Tried multiple times to get good swift code with ChatGPT and it produced code that would not even compile. It seems that scanning StackOverflow for good code just does not work without more supervised training.
 
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I'll keep an open mind about it.

What frustrates me is that the documentation in Xcode often will not include any kind of example of how what you're researching should be used in some code. If AI could help with that it would be great.
 
"Oh no! I am a developer and I am going to get replaced!"

Can't wait to see those comments.

I hope this AI doesn't replace developers. I hope its a sidekick and I don't want AI writing all my code.

I certainly would be happy if it replaced all those developers who didn't want to pay Apple a commission.
 
But having their developers implement as many AI features as possible on their own is not the way to create a consistent experience.

if the reporting is true, it doesn't mean that those developers can decide if it is included in the OS.
 
Make no mistake though that we're less than a decade away from us just opening our phones and telling Siri/iOS/SiriAGI what kind of App we need and it just writes a bespoke one for you on the fly tailored to your specific needs.
I doubt it.
 
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