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Yep. As much as people rave about Affinity Publisher and Sketch and the like, at the end of the day many aspects of the design industry are locked into Creative Cloud. I could see replacing it for personal projects, but the minute you have to freelance and deliver files in a format your client expects, you'll be right back to Adobe.
This. Tried out Affinity Suite a few months ago and gotta say I’m impressed overall.

Unfortunately, it will not be my daily driver (yet). This is mainly based on Publisher/InDesign as it’s my most used app. One, it’s just not ready for long form documents. Two, no IMDL export.
 
Exactly this is an example of the Great Reset we’ve been warned about. It starts with innocent things like this to condition people to the idea.

At the very least it indicates to me that Apple knows a near future is coming where you quite literally won’t be able to function in polite society without a pocket computer guardian. Seems to me they’re looking ahead to capitalise on supplying a device to the millions of smartphone holdouts who won’t be able to afford the purchase cost when they are inevitably forced to join the party.

It could be argued they are actively building this future by selling the ‘convenience’ of having pretty much everything from your driving license to your bio-security credentials stored in Apple Wallet in order to make it ‘easier' for you to “show me your papers, schnell.” People scoff at these ideas but that’s because they have no imagination and have never read history.
 
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But no one cared: mostly 3-5 y/o CS-whatever still did what you needed it to do, especially by the time we'd got as far as CS6, so users didn't upgrade. That's why Adobe changed to a subscription model. In fact when the first MacOS came along which wouldn't run CS6 (whatever came after Mojave I think) Adobe probably threw a party.

C6 was very usable until few years ago. In fact, many Windows-based studios use it on a daily basis even today.

With CC subscription model, Adobe can simply get away with gimmicks and cosmetic improvements, while ignoring serious problems, like this.
 
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Why does it matter anymore. They glue all their stuff together to make near impossible to repair and have no upgrade path. Apple is a giant E-waste maker now. get 2-3 years and toss it.
It matters to me because I don’t need a new phone, let alone new tablets or computers, every year or two.

I went from the 6 to the Xs, which is what I still have. For me, it’s a phone, a GPS, and a web browser. The apps I use seem to work fine.

I take the 6 when I travel intentionally. Once I lose it, break it, it gets stolen, or it won’t run a map app or WhatsApp, I’ll slide the Xs into its place and get a new phone.

For people who like the new phone smell, this could make a lot of sense. I’ll look at the numbers when there are numbers to look at, but it’s unlikely to make any more sense for me than leasing a car. We‘ll see.
 
That's great and all until you go to retire and realize you still have the same monthly outlay as you did while you were working because you didn't bother to work toward owning any assets. Your monthly expenses in retirement should be somewhere around 60-80% of what they were in your working years and that will be hard to achieve when you're still paying all the same bills.
Yeah, and wait until they hyper inflation hits. This program screams material excess/decadence, and we're all going to be splitting cartons of eggs with neighbors before too long.
 
Remember, always, you are not the only person in the world...
In the case of autos, there are apparently tax benefits to renting a car. The same sort if thing may hold (I know nothing about this area of tax law) if you rent your phone and use it for business purposes, or for phones that are purchased (and now will be rented) by organizations.

Along a different dimension, renting provides optionality, whether of the form "I just need this for one month to put together the movie I am creating", or of the form "I can't tell if I want a small phone or a big one, let me try for a month and see".
As a business that needs things to be flexible, always needs them to work, and can write off the costs, yes, I understand the advantage of renting. Physical assets for a business are generally a liability (although, not always.) For the individual, the flexibility is the only advantage of renting. Owning is almost always better for you long term financially, especially if you can buy used. I realize that I am likely not seeing all cases, but this is generally the truth as long as you hold on to what you buy for relatively long periods of time and take care of those things.
 
At the very least it indicates to me that Apple knows a near future is coming where you quite literally won’t be able to function in polite society without a pocket computer guardian. Seems to me they’re looking ahead to capitalise on supplying a device to the millions of smartphone holdouts who won’t be able to afford the purchase cost when they are inevitably forced to join the party.

It could be argued they are actively building this future by selling the ‘convenience’ of having pretty much everything from your driving license to your bio-security credentials stored in Apple Wallet in order to make it ‘easier' for you to “show me your papers, schnell.” People scoff at these ideas but that’s because they have no imagination and have never read history.
I assume you must be aware that it has been possible to rent things for decades and decades, right?

Computers, cars, video cassettes, houses, suits, fields, cloud space, people.. you have even been able to rent Apples own equipment from other companies for a long time.

.. I mean -why is it that when a rumour that Apple might do it, it's the end of society as we know it?
 
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That's exactly why a subscription model is good though. Try doing that with the old Master Collection. You'd need to drop 1500+, and whilst it's true - you would own them, they would be out of date within a year or two.
Sorry, but one statement is faulty, and the other is false.

In the old method, you needed only to buy the software that you needed, be it Photoshop, Illustrator etc.

And secondly, the software was not out of date. It would have worked just as well for as long as Apple etc. would have supported the software.

As the others have mentioned. CS6 worked for a vere long time, till the 32bit apocalypse.

Most professionals just feel that if it is not broke, there is no need to fix it.
 
I assume you must be aware that it has been possible to rent things for decades and decades, right?

Computers, cars, video cassettes, houses, suits, fields, cloud space, people.. you have even been able to rent Apples own equipment from other companies for a long time.

.. I mean -why is it that when a rumour that Apple might do it, it's the end of society as we know it?

Merely extrapolating the inevitable. The writing’s been on the wall for a couple of decades but it’s now accelerating rapidly. You’re entitled to disagree of course but it’s inexorable at this point. Thanks in no small part to the majority who think it can’t happen to them.

ETA: of course you're right in that this one thing wouldn't signal the end of society. The conversation has meandered a bit. The point being it would be just one more small step to "you'll own nothing and be happy." These things don't happen overnight. The frog is slowly boiled in the pot of apathy.
 
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Sorry, but one statement is faulty, and the other is false.

In the old method, you needed only to buy the software that you needed, be it Photoshop, Illustrator etc.

And secondly, the software was not out of date. It would have worked just as well for as long as Apple etc. would have supported the software.

As the others have mentioned. CS6 worked for a vere long time, till the 32bit apocalypse.

Most professionals just feel that if it is not broke, there is no need to fix it.
It worked - yeah. But you have just given away the fact that you dont use this stuff on a professional level by this statement, meaning that your point is faulty in itself.
You need a level playing field when using this software particularly when working with others on the same file. Some dude still using CS5 isn't really someone who's gonna get hired, even if it still works for him.

You're correct though, if you just want to use photoshop, for example, for your own little projects -CS5 still works provided you never update your Mac. But then most non professionals are unlikely to have ever purchased the Master Collection for 2500, or Photoshop for 800. 'Acquired' it by another means maybe, which is nearly impossible these days.

As I keep stating, it's professional level software, aimed at professionals. That's why its pricey. The majority of non professionals likely to have tried the Master Collection before would be via pirating, because or else its a massive outlay for a once in a while hobby.

Of course, spending 52 one month because you want to have a play, but then not again until the next time you want to have a play is much, much more doable for a normal person.

So like it or not its much more attainable, which is kind of the point of renting anything.
 
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Lots of oblivious people on here leaving “reactions” rather than a substantive reply…just wait. Alex Jones was right ;-)
 
Wow, this thread is full of doom and conspiracy theories. I’m almost positive this will be an option, not a requirement. If you want to buy an iPhone, Mac, or iPad outright, I’m sure you’ll still have the option to. Most people will still probably finance or buy through a carrier, some will buy outright, and some will do this if it becomes an option.

There’s no way Apple would force people into doing this. They’d get way too much blowback. But for some Apple enthusiasts, it will be more economically feasible and convenient to have this option than to not have this option. Why panic over consumers having more options?
 
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You're right but that happens now even with contract phones. Certainly here in the UK. Years ago I was on a two year T-Mobile contract with my first iPhone (4S), paying £40 per month for the phone + data + txt + mins. Something like 26-27 months in, I phoned up to ask at what point in time were they planning to move me onto a sim-only deal considering I now effectively owned the phone having completed the obligatory contract. Long story short, they wouldn't ever have done. So I cancelled that contract and took out a sim-only contract with them, got a better package (more data+txts+mins, which in those days weren't unlimted) for £20pm. But if I hadn't asked, I'd have been paying £40pm forever.
I hear you. And that's exactly why I buy my phones outright now. Back when the 4s came out, I learned the hard way that that's really the only way to do it.
 
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Why panic over consumers having more options?
I agree that this will likely just be another option, but to answer that question directly, I think people see it as another form of figurative slavery. Every company since Netflix has gotten into the business of manipulating people into subscriptions. So when you see yet another revenue stream being opened up, it's only natural for some to be cynical about it.
 
It always starts as an option.

It’s also something that those at the top of the WEF like. Keep the masses in financial slavery. You’ll never own it so you’ll ALWAYS have a monthly payment. That’s X number of dollars less each month you can save. Then they’ll be a subscription for A,B, and C. That’s even less of your take home pay gone. You’ll be nickel and dimed. They put it out there it’s not a secret. Some of it is in that build back better nonsense.
 
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Sadly not everyone can afford thousands of dollars to buy a new device all the time and own it.

I know my stance is controversial it seems nowadays. But maybe not everyone should have brand new shiny devices if they can't afford it? Leasing material items is bad for the consumer, especially ones with limited income. BMW makes a killing on folks making 40-50K a year and leasing them cars every couple of years. It's ok not to keep up the Joneses.
 
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I know my stance is controversial it seems nowadays. But maybe not everyone should have brand new shiny devices if they can't afford it? Leasing material items is bad for the consumer, especially ones with limited income. BMW makes a killing on folks making 40-50K a year and leasing them cars every couple of years. It's ok not to keep up the Joneses.
Leasing is also tax deductible
 
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Sorry, once Apple makes that change I will stop using Apple products. I am not paying anyone a "subscription" for my computer hardware or phone.
 
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Wow, this thread is full of doom and conspiracy theories.

I can see why you may think that on first thought, but not really. I don't think anyone is realistically suggesting Apple are going to take over the world next week, but nothing being discussed here is conspiracy theory. That's just lazy debate. Everything people are talking about is in the public domain, openly published by the WEF. This is the future they want for the plebeians, and it doesn't take much investigation to uncover that the WEF hold massive political and economic sway. They have the ear of the British Crown.

It goes without saying you're free to dismiss all this stuff as a conspiracy theory if you wish, but burying one's head in the sand is the exact reason it will all come to pass if we continue to acquiesce. By the time most people realise what's happened it will be too late. Again, the suggestion isn't that Apple will bring about armageddon by renting out iPhones. It's the bigger picture that should concern everyone. Now is the time for people to be talking about these things. We ignore it at our peril ?
 
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