All the (surprisingly high number of) conspiracy theorists in this thread saying this is the beginning of some global destruction of property ownership.... You do know Apple isnt the whole computer market, right? In the highly unlikely event (and I mean *highly unlikely*) that Apple did away with direct sales for a subscription only model you could just.... not use Apple
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Apple Developing Hardware Subscription Service for iPhones and Other Devices
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Apple wants less supply in the secondary market, which will drive price sensitive secondary buyers to Apple directly.
Are you trolling or what?
"Some dude still using CS5 isn't really someone who's gonna get hired"
You know those portfolio things that designers carry around? Yeah, mostly designers get hired by what they have designed and how it looks in the portfolio, not by what software they used.
Guys get hired because they have a good eye and can deliver quality on time, not on what version they are on. I could not care less about them knowing the keyboard shortcuts.
"if you just want to use photoshop, for example, for your own little projects -CS5 still works provided you never update your Mac."
1) that kinda proves the point
2) Yeah whatever, I use "just" Photoshop for "own little projects" m-hm.
3) Outside of the core graphics designers, there are dozens of workers in a graphical setting that may need Photoshop or InDesign, either for last minute text edits, or graphical work peripherally to the main team. You are not going to take a designer away to resize a logo when its needed on a website for instance, and all these licenses cost money, even at volume license. But I guess you would call that a "little project".
"As I keep stating, it's professional level software, aimed at professionals. That's why its pricey."
No, its pricey because Adobe is price gauging. And its not that the software has improved, as others have written in this thread and elsewhere.
"Of course, spending 52 one month because you want to have a play, but then not again until the next time you want to have a play is much, much more doable for a normal person."
But then, if you dont pay, you dont have access to the files you have created. So need to pay and and pay and pay.
20 years experience, but sure thing.
Go ahead mate, you do you.
Anyway I am out, because this is not the topic.
First it will be Apple others will follow. Look at what Samsung did with chargers. The first year they made fun of Apple. The second year they copied them. It’s all of this little stuff that adds up. Just like not pushing back against mask mandates eventually led to take the jab or it’s your job. They started out saying that would never happen but 18 months later…
I get the bigger picture. But I do welcome a program where I can "rent" my iPhone or whatever it is if it accommodates my lifestyle or financial situation. What I would NOT want to see, of course, is the elimination of the ownership model. One does not imply the other even though it is a possibility. For some maybe it seems an inevitability.
Pretty sure a lot are just being forced to use it because it is the industry standard, not because they like to.
Bad wording on my part. You have the files yes, but you cannot work on them for obvious reasons...
Plenty of apps are able to use, import and export with various Adobe file naming standards.
Anyway. It's really a discussion on whether subscriptions are a money grab or are sometimes a preferable choice. Our opinions are different is all.
While I've never used the iPhone Upgrade Program (because the iPhone SE is not offered on that program), I totally understand your dissatisfaction with AT&T. They have, by far, the worst customer service out of all the major carriers. Also, their prices are unreasonably high.
It’s reminiscent of the “Seinfeld” episode with the Soup Nazi. If you go along you will get your bowl of soup. Don’t like tomato soup that’s OK because it’s all we serve you will learn to like it.
It’s not just about ownership but choice.
Love Apple, but don't love this idea. I like having options but this one isn't for me. This might actually get some people in trouble, spending beyond their means.
Apple is developing a hardware subscription service that would allow customers to "subscribe" and receive an iPhone or other Apple device as part of their subscription, similar to the way current Apple subscriptions like iCloud work, reports Bloomberg.
Customers would be able to pay a monthly subscription fee and gain access to a device for the subscription period. This would be ideal for customers who do not have the funds to buy an expensive iPhone, iPad, or Mac up front, but who can afford a monthly price for the device, plus it would bring in more revenue for Apple.
Apple is said to be aiming to make the process of buying an iPhone or an iPad "on par" with purchasing iCloud storage or paying for an Apple Music subscription, with customers able to subscribe to hardware with their Apple ID and App Store account.
Compared to the iPhone Upgrade Program, it would differ because Apple would charge a yet-to-be-determined monthly fee rather than splitting the cost of a device across a 12 or 24 month period. It would also cover other products while the iPhone Upgrade Program is limited to the iPhone.
It is possible that Apple will allow subscription users to swap out their devices for updated models when refreshed products are released, and Apple has had discussions internally about tying the subscription program to Apple One bundles and AppleCare support plans.
Customers would be able to purchase a hardware subscription on their devices, through the App Store, through the company's website, or at an Apple online store.
According to Bloomberg, the service will be Apple's "biggest push yet" into recurring sales, but the project is still in development and little is known about it at this time. Apple has been working on it for months, but it was pushed back to allow Apple to focus on a separate "buy now, pay later" service that is designed to allow customers to pay for Apple Pay purchases in installments over time.
Apple is working to implement hardware subscriptions by the end of 2022, but it could be delayed into 2023 or canceled entirely should Apple decide to go in a different direction.
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Technology has developed into the perfect tool to “Cancel” people.
Everything has moved to the cloud in the form of an app. From education to healthcare from banking to shopping from groceries to fast food.
Cash itself has all but vanished and will soon be replaced with digital currency.
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In the past upgrading every two years to get a new iPhone with a faster processor to keep up with the iOS was common and often necessary.
This may be the only way/method Apple can use to justify upgrading now that Apple Silicon has matured and its performance has reached such a high level.
This may be the only way/method Apple can use to justify upgrading now that Apple Silicon has matured and its performance has reached such a high level.
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I tend to spend big on my MacBook Pros so that they last me, if I could spend less, this might be a better way FOR ME to keep me in more current machines with the power I need today...
A home in the UK, US, two cars in the US and one in the UK, everything in our homes and all electronics etc. The only debt we have is an Amex that gets paid off in full monthly.
We were this way when we were poor too. I only just upgraded my iPhone 6S to a 13 Pro last year.
I don’t understand? I used the same phone for half a decade. That’s not spending thousands on a new device all the time. Plus you can get an SE and have it last for years for a really reasonable cost.
It seems that he implies that it's necessary for a human being to spend thousands on a brand new phone every year.
We needed two new phones at the same time so we bought the SE2020 on its launch day instead of breaking the bank and not being able to afford two 11s. We prefer to just buy them outright or direct from Apple instead of getting hooked onto a carrier plan or contract.
Whacking a conspiracy theory in there. Like that’s never been done before. ?
While you may have paid off your mortgage and your automotive financing you really do not own either of them.
If you stop paying your property tax your homes can be foreclosed on by the state and sold at auction
If you fail to pay your automotive tax and registration fees your automobiles can be impounded and sold at auction.
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Homestead exemption in the US and it's more complicated than that in the UK but I guess in theory you are right.
Only if I drive on public roads, in the UK it is simple to SORN a vehicle and un-SORN it, during the pandemic I did just this and paid zero in insurance and VED. In the US I don't believe anything would happen unless the Police caught me on the roads with out valid insurance and registration.
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