Apple Developing Thinner Face ID for iPhone Air 2, Report Suggests

[Scooby_Snacks]

It was SUCH a failure

Pretty much everything Apple has "innovated" in the last 5 years has been a failure:
Apple (Vision) Dork Goggles Pro - massive failure
iPhone Air - massive failure
MacOS 26 Tahoe (Liquid Ass) - failure
Apple Intelligence - massive failure

When was the last time Apple released something we all loved and thought was amazing? Someone remind me, there must be something that Tim (bend the knee to Trump) Cook has done under his watch that has been innovative?

 

[marte91]

People actually use the ultra wide? IMO it’s nothing more than a waste of space

i honestly stopped taking pictures with phones, long time ago, only as a last resort, but if I'm going to a planned event, like my daughter school presentation, i own full frame bodies, both mirrorless and DLSR's, so honestly a phone camera is not going to provide the same dynamic range and light sensitivity, i also understand that sometimes the only camera available to you will be the one on your phone, but for the most part i haven't take almost no pictures on my phone.

 

[9Jooey]

The iPhone Air's flop actually worked out for me. The iPhone Air's flop actually worked out for me; I bought one at almost $300 off.

 

[subjonas]

Pretty much everything Apple has "innovated" in the last 5 years has been a failure:
Apple (Vision) Dork Goggles Pro - massive failure
iPhone Air - massive failure
MacOS 26 Tahoe (Liquid Ass) - failure
Apple Intelligence - massive failure

When was the last time Apple released something we all loved and thought was amazing? Someone remind me, there must be something that Tim (bend the knee to Trump) Cook has done under his watch that has been innovative?

Obviously there was nothing that everyone thought was amazing because there are always mockers, but under Cook the popular products introduced were:
2015 - Watch
2016 - AirPods
2020 - Apple Silicon Macs

But nothing in the last 5 years unless you count the M4 Mac Mini redesign which many seemed to like.

 

[The Game 161]

seems unlikely this is for 2026/2027

 

[Scottsoapbox]

People actually use the ultra wide? IMO it’s nothing more than a waste of space.

Young people lost in screens don’t understand that you can step backwards and achieve the same result with the main camera.

 

[Anaxarxes]

I already responded to all these questions. And “cost” is a pretty poor excuse for a computer that starts at $2000 (and the new models will surely start significantly higher than that) and has ~30% profit margin, especially when the parts cost, at most, $50.

A good product does not have excess. It works for most people's needs as intended.

Macbooks do that very, very well.

 

[urnotl33t]

The existing Face ID system does use a prism, specifically for the dot projector. It's actually the prism that takes up the bulk of the thickness of the Face ID assembly and prevents it from fitting in a MacBook's lid. What Apple could use is a metalens, which is wafer thin but can project light inward or outward like a thicker lens or prism could. This would allow the Face ID assembly to be drastically cut down in thickness.

Interesting point and I suspect you’re correct.

So…why have they not put a camera wart on the MacBook lids to accommodate?

Come on everyone, Say it… saaaay it…. Say the words… come on .. say it….

That’s what I thought. So why does it exist on the iPhones and iPads?

 

[johnsawyercjs]

After ten years they start working in a thinner version. Siri all over again.

The technology to make the Face ID components significantly thinner has only recently approached the commercial-ready phase. One of those new parts might be a metalens, though current technology for that might limit it to the dot projector instead of the IR camera or the prism.

 

[johnsawyercjs]

So…why have they not put a camera wart on the MacBook lids to accommodate?

Come on everyone, Say it… saaaay it…. Say the words… come on .. say it….

Whispers: thinness?

Or, because if you put a camera wart on the back of a Macbook display lid, if you then close the lid and turn the Macbook upside down on a tabletop, that wart would cause the Macbook to rock.

 

[bbates123]

Pretty much everything Apple has "innovated" in the last 5 years has been a failure:
Apple (Vision) Dork Goggles Pro - massive failure
iPhone Air - massive failure
MacOS 26 Tahoe (Liquid Ass) - failure
Apple Intelligence - massive failure

When was the last time Apple released something we all loved and thought was amazing? Someone remind me, there must be something that Tim (bend the knee to Trump) Cook has done under his watch that has been innovative?Yeah, I would like to remind you of the

I guess we all have different opinions of what is failure and what is success/innovation and I disagree with much of what you said. I happen to think the Air and Liquid Glass some of the most fresh and innovative products that they have come out with in many many years and I applaud them for having the courage to come out with something different rather than the same boring slop everyone comes out with each year. I absolutely love my Air and marvel at its beautiful design and thin and light form factor. Really loving the Liquid Glass too. Sorry it isn't for you, that's sad. The Vision Pro glasses seem awesome but way too expensive for me. The only thing I will agree with you on is Apple Intelligence.