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What do you suggest Apple to do? Hold off till things improve and release nothing new. Recessions effect different people in various ways, Apple will be fine.
That’s a fair comment.
Not sure I understand what you mean with your AW comment. I’ve been using AW since about 6 months after introduction and it is still my favorite Apple product as of this day.
Will I say this about the AR/VR product in 7.5 years? LOL
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If Tim Cook can't demonstrate Apple AR/VR headset making phone calls how Steve Jobs demonstrated. I don't even know what to say anymore.
As a great CEO should, I just don’t align with all of Cooks decisions but as a shareholder I am generally pleased with Cook’s performance.
I had an iPhone X, it was innovative for its time but felt slow to me. XS was an improvement and 11 Pro was a refinement. Dee likes living in iPhone X misery as to complain about something, ah the human condition.
Looking forward to the announcement.
There's a ton of potential innovative uses and applications. Just takes a wee bit of imagination and Apple's entry into the market to wake people up.
There's a ton of potential innovative uses and applications. Just takes a wee bit of imagination and Apple's entry into the market to wake people up.
It stands for xtra revenue operating system.
So you don’t see any potential for educational training, people with disability, mental health, etc since at present it was about games, movies, whatever.
Imagine you are a technician let’s say HVAC. Put on the AppleGoogs and have the product schematics from the company overlayed. Need to add an accessory it will be displayed in AR, have an updated fix due to manufacturing problems, get trained and certified if you are an apprentice without sending out a journeyman. This is one example of many.
Imagine being in an X-Wing fighter while watching StarWars or a PodRace.
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Niche and poorly defined market. If AR/VR had the potential for educational purposes. The Government/private schools would have invested the money already. They haven’t! It’s not a new product in the market either. It’s already been out there.
You can do that with a "Lidar Sensor" on an iPhone and iPad.
You can become an X-Wing fighter while watching Star Wars or a Podrace wearing Google's Cardboard AR/VR headset. Oh, guess what it costs less than an Apple Polishing Cloth.
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Apple TV wireless connectivity could be a great one for two person option instead of a big screen TV. It was a given Apple Headphones will would work. I could see this in shared living buildings, even crowed homes wanting the theater quality in a quiet environment. Apple TV supports two headphones now. Pickup the video, all set. My challenge with all this stuff, what would I do with it my first question. One answer here.
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Governments are slow at many innovative things other than collecting taxes that is a fact. There is a government and industrial collaborated initiative that provides VR headsets for educational training. AR offers the possibility for surgeons an additional level of reassurance and minimize risk.Niche and poorly defined market. If AR/VR had the potential for educational purposes. The Government/private schools would have invested the money already. They haven’t! It’s not a new product in the market either. It’s already been out there.
You can do that with a "Lidar Sensor" on an iPhone and iPad.
You can become an X-Wing fighter while watching Star Wars or a Podrace wearing Google's Cardboard AR/VR headset. Oh, guess what it costs less than an Apple Polishing Cloth.
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Bring virtual reality to life with Google cardboard. Using your smartphone and very apps, this quality viewer puts the world of very right in your hands, affordably. Immersive experience: step into stunning environments that stretch all around you. No matter where you look, it's as if you're real...www.amazon.com
AW was niche when it was introduced and look where it is today and still evolving even though I still feel it niche many others disagree.
Do I think this product will be a home run when released? Probably another AW trajectory not iPod, iPhone or iPad excitement. Tim Cook is about slowly building unlike the marketer Steve Jobs.
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Never say never. AW is a fine product, I just have not found a use for it in my daily life that is not covered by iPhone plus I dislike wearing watches or any hand accessories.
I “paint” the category of gaming because I’m just not into it, it’s my choice.
And fwiw, 20+ years ago, in my job, we evaluated a product called Xybernaut which was the precursor for this, many use cases but could never justify the cost…
If you had described a device that did everything that the iPhone does, a year or two before it was unveiled, everyone would be very interested in it and most likely want it sight unseen.
But a VR/AR headset?
From what I’ve read, (almost) nobody here on Mac Rumors seems the least bit interested in it. Not even curious.
That’s some serious headwaters it’s going against if member’s sentiment is anything like the general population.
I for one can’t wait! for it to be unveiled. I’m hoping it’s sooner rather than later.
You want to know why?
It’s so we don’t have to see that gawdawful VR goggles render anymore. That horrible image has done more harm to the pre-hype buzz than a thousand negative tweets could ever do.
But a VR/AR headset?
From what I’ve read, (almost) nobody here on Mac Rumors seems the least bit interested in it. Not even curious.
That’s some serious headwaters it’s going against if member’s sentiment is anything like the general population.
I for one can’t wait! for it to be unveiled. I’m hoping it’s sooner rather than later.
You want to know why?
It’s so we don’t have to see that gawdawful VR goggles render anymore. That horrible image has done more harm to the pre-hype buzz than a thousand negative tweets could ever do.
20+ years ago also had a different generation who was using it hence why it may not have been successful. Cost then and now has also come down while capabilities improved.
Thats like handing over a smartphone or tablet to someone who grew up with typewriters, some generations and people are willing to adapt while some don’t care. I was under the impression that GoogleGlass was too ahead of its time with limited capabilities but expect a revival once Apple is in the arena.
I’ve had nightmares of this render…
But I guess when you see something so ugly hundreds of times over a couple years, it’s bound to happen.
But I guess when you see something so ugly hundreds of times over a couple years, it’s bound to happen.
Not making a judgement until I see anything, but it's very interesting nonetheless. Just curious if Apple can make something better than Facebook/Meta can. It'll definitely be a higher price than any Meta quest device, but I want to see what it'll do. I think I'll probably want to try out one in an Apple Store as well before I buy anything. And I hope someone gets SteamVR working with it, lol.
Well guess what, the problems in the business space that we had back then still exist today. It’s not a generational barrier, I did grow up in the typewriter age but guess where I’m typing this on?
My question with this stuff is: where is the consumer day-to-day use case that justifies it? And to repeat myself, I see many many use cases but all are niche cases…
I’ll be watching this space …
The original Rift with Touch controllers is good enough for making interesting gaming experiences. It's not good enough for many tasks I could see the average consumer using it for.
I think it's easy to think of use cases for an ideal VR headset.
If there were a pair of magic glasses that would allow you to put any size, shape, and configuration of screens anywhere in any space you are in without taking up physical space, I think that would be valuable to a large number of people.
The first AR/VR/XR headset from Apple won't be able to provide that in a completely seamless, comfortable matter. I really need to know the specific capabilities of the device to know if it's worthwhile, but that doesn't require me to disregard the potential of the whole category of devices.
It's sort of like foldable phones. Some people don't get the point. If your iPhone could transform into an iPad Mini without any compromises to the iPhone experience, I think a lot of people would want that. But current foldable phones do have compromises, such as an increase in price, increase in size, reduced durability, etc. Maybe that ideal foldable phone will never arrive, but I still wouldn't dismiss the idea of it.
Looking forward to it! Hopefully it's not just for games. Watching a movie using this thing must be awesome
dying for the product’s release just so we can stop seeing this weird ski goggle concept art 🙏🏼
I’m not interested in AR or VR but are these apps available now in the Windows App Store?
I can't imagine them releasing this device without having all the functionality of an Apple TV plus a big virtual screen to watch the content on. Maybe they can even convince Disney to add 3D movies to the VR Apple TV version of Disney+.
I'm more worried about gaming capabilities if this Headset doesn't have controllers that have similar functionality to other VR controllers. Hand tracking alone will be fine for some more casual games, but won't cut it for many others.
