krossfyter
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an apple digicamera...hmmm.. dont think so. but i guess it would be cool. im down with whatever them boys put out.
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Apple Digital Camera?
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5GB hard drive in a camera a waste!?!
*presses apple-i on picture folder*
I've got 1.15GB's of pictures. That would be sweet to be able to store them ALL on the camera and show them off to friends. Also, most cameras put WAY to much compression on photos to make them small enough to fit on the cards. Apples camera could achieve a much higher quality with compression that doesn't effect the look of the picture.
From the way I see it, a camera is inevitable. Apple wants to control the user experience from begining to end. Take the whole MP3 thing:
1. Turn on apple iMac
2. Rip CD using apple iTunes
3. Play with apple iPod.
They could apply that to digital cameras:
1. Shoot with apple iWhatever
2. Sort with apple iPhoto
3. Send pictures to be developed with Apple.
This is what apple is trying to do people!
*presses apple-i on picture folder*
I've got 1.15GB's of pictures. That would be sweet to be able to store them ALL on the camera and show them off to friends. Also, most cameras put WAY to much compression on photos to make them small enough to fit on the cards. Apples camera could achieve a much higher quality with compression that doesn't effect the look of the picture.
From the way I see it, a camera is inevitable. Apple wants to control the user experience from begining to end. Take the whole MP3 thing:
1. Turn on apple iMac
2. Rip CD using apple iTunes
3. Play with apple iPod.
They could apply that to digital cameras:
1. Shoot with apple iWhatever
2. Sort with apple iPhoto
3. Send pictures to be developed with Apple.
This is what apple is trying to do people!
yeah, i mean i figured there would be some memory...but to enter a field like this i just thought they had better have a mind-blowing concept...aka internal HD...i mean i'm sure ipod sales have been pretty good but to tout that "to really take advantage of this cam you should have an ipod" would be a bit overwhelming and prentious of apple...
a large HD could make this thing standout in a saturated market...
katchow
just an opinion...every opinion has value...i dont like sounding like i'm discrediting
a large HD could make this thing standout in a saturated market...
katchow
just an opinion...every opinion has value...i dont like sounding like i'm discrediting
another thought...
another thought...from an utterly bored pwerson right now...
the design community eats up apple stuff w/ a fork...the thought of being able to carry this digital camera and take super high res images (which will most likely be needed for a serious print) would really draw attention...you'd be surprised at the photographers still using film so they can get the quality they want...i still see a lot of c-prints...and scanning can cost a fortune (thank god for me)...
katchow
it'd be hard to tell a serious designer..well, this could be really great quality if only you'd buy a mp3 player first...lets face it, we still know who apple's core audience is.
another thought...from an utterly bored pwerson right now...
the design community eats up apple stuff w/ a fork...the thought of being able to carry this digital camera and take super high res images (which will most likely be needed for a serious print) would really draw attention...you'd be surprised at the photographers still using film so they can get the quality they want...i still see a lot of c-prints...and scanning can cost a fortune (thank god for me)...
katchow
it'd be hard to tell a serious designer..well, this could be really great quality if only you'd buy a mp3 player first...lets face it, we still know who apple's core audience is.
new info
yourdailymac.com has updated the story.
Their source is indicating foveon x3 chip and bundled with iPHoto Pro.
They're really pushing their credibility now.
Sigma, which is the only announced camera that will have the foveon is only 3.x megapixel.
iPhoto is still only a 1.0 version. 2.0 is probably 4-6 months away, and they're saying a iPhoto Pro version is ready.
I would love a apple digicam, foveon x3 4 megapixel, 3x zoom, hotshoe, 5 gig drive, firewire, some manual features, but it's not going to happen. Especially not for $599.
yourdailymac.com has updated the story.
Their source is indicating foveon x3 chip and bundled with iPHoto Pro.
They're really pushing their credibility now.
Sigma, which is the only announced camera that will have the foveon is only 3.x megapixel.
iPhoto is still only a 1.0 version. 2.0 is probably 4-6 months away, and they're saying a iPhoto Pro version is ready.
I would love a apple digicam, foveon x3 4 megapixel, 3x zoom, hotshoe, 5 gig drive, firewire, some manual features, but it's not going to happen. Especially not for $599.
iPhoto
A new version of iPhoto? Perhaps that explains why the Apple OS X suggestions website has one section for all OS X features and applications and a DIFFERENT path for iPhoto suggestions...
A new version of iPhoto? Perhaps that explains why the Apple OS X suggestions website has one section for all OS X features and applications and a DIFFERENT path for iPhoto suggestions...
No need...
There are great digital cameras on the market already...the issue of digital cameras have been "solved" for the most part, IMO.
I have a Canon G1 (3.3 mp) with a 340 mb IBM microdrive (will take a 1 gig drive), and great battery life. The camera is simple to operate, but extremely powerful if I want to control the individual settings. It connects to my Powerbook through iPhoto seamlessly. It is extremely well built and solid. I think this camera is great, and it is now a couple of years old; canon has already released newer/better models.
I also have a Canon Elura Mini DV camera, and again, it is great. I don't want a hard-drive based Mini DV camera, at least for now. Tapes can be given to other people, are simple, inexpensive storage, and cheap to buy. The harddrive would have to be much larger than 20 gigs to be very useable. I use this camera a lot, and just can't think of too many improvements that I absolutely need that don't already exist in the market.
The point is, I am a Mac fanatic; I don't think I would buy anything that Apple puts out in the camera market. Optics are not their game, and there is no significant hole in the market for them to attack.
Now...as for a PDA? Bring it on! 😀
There are great digital cameras on the market already...the issue of digital cameras have been "solved" for the most part, IMO.
I have a Canon G1 (3.3 mp) with a 340 mb IBM microdrive (will take a 1 gig drive), and great battery life. The camera is simple to operate, but extremely powerful if I want to control the individual settings. It connects to my Powerbook through iPhoto seamlessly. It is extremely well built and solid. I think this camera is great, and it is now a couple of years old; canon has already released newer/better models.
I also have a Canon Elura Mini DV camera, and again, it is great. I don't want a hard-drive based Mini DV camera, at least for now. Tapes can be given to other people, are simple, inexpensive storage, and cheap to buy. The harddrive would have to be much larger than 20 gigs to be very useable. I use this camera a lot, and just can't think of too many improvements that I absolutely need that don't already exist in the market.
The point is, I am a Mac fanatic; I don't think I would buy anything that Apple puts out in the camera market. Optics are not their game, and there is no significant hole in the market for them to attack.
Now...as for a PDA? Bring it on! 😀
AmbitiousLemon
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Timothy: your right on this. the best thing for an apple digicam to do would be encourage use of firewire. it would fail to sell well but might get enough copy cats on the market tat firwire would replace usb on the market. or at least make a good presence. that woul be my big hope for an apple digicam. ibm's microdrive are amazing. i looked for a digital camera that would take one but couldnt find any under $1000. but i also was looking for a minimum of 4megapixels. i hope these spread as well. im a lil pissed apple didnt use an ibm drive in the ipod. ibm has 5gig ones ready to go, there is just no market for them now. apple could have cut he ipod in half with one of these, or left more room for more connections.
but Timothy's last comment as much as it will get under eye's skin (hm that sounds odd) is true. the ipod is a great example. apple took a dying market and revived it. the digital camera market is doing anything but dying. but pdas are dying. if you dont like the word pda, then call it a handheld. its all the same. this is a market apple could revive, the only question is does apple already have too many balls in the air. with major updates to osx necessary just to make it usable, powermacs that are severly underpowered, and a beautiful new imac that is having production problems, a handheld would be a lot to take on. maybe in a year or two though...
but Timothy's last comment as much as it will get under eye's skin (hm that sounds odd) is true. the ipod is a great example. apple took a dying market and revived it. the digital camera market is doing anything but dying. but pdas are dying. if you dont like the word pda, then call it a handheld. its all the same. this is a market apple could revive, the only question is does apple already have too many balls in the air. with major updates to osx necessary just to make it usable, powermacs that are severly underpowered, and a beautiful new imac that is having production problems, a handheld would be a lot to take on. maybe in a year or two though...
GO APPLE!
an apple digital camera would sell well, it would, most importantly, look and feel solid, eligant, and simple. look at the iPod, it sold well, a camera would sell well for the same reason. people would look at it because it's different from the rest, then see what it's capable of, 5GB = how many photos? people would be able to store their photos ON THE CAMERA, rather than moving them over to the computer (a hastle, no mater how easy), just plug-in and view. thousands of photos you can take to your friends computer whenever you want, no hastles with choosing wich 2% of your photos to copy to a zip first.
go apple
if people were about price they probabely wouldnt spend more than $50 on a digital camera anyway.
apple means ease of use, most people know that
iTunes, i thought "nice, but why?"
then came the iPod, perfect match to iTunes
iPhoto, "ok, looks useless to me"
here comes the iCamera, perfect match to iPhoto
iHope you do it apple
iWill by one
an apple digital camera would sell well, it would, most importantly, look and feel solid, eligant, and simple. look at the iPod, it sold well, a camera would sell well for the same reason. people would look at it because it's different from the rest, then see what it's capable of, 5GB = how many photos? people would be able to store their photos ON THE CAMERA, rather than moving them over to the computer (a hastle, no mater how easy), just plug-in and view. thousands of photos you can take to your friends computer whenever you want, no hastles with choosing wich 2% of your photos to copy to a zip first.
go apple
if people were about price they probabely wouldnt spend more than $50 on a digital camera anyway.
apple means ease of use, most people know that
iTunes, i thought "nice, but why?"
then came the iPod, perfect match to iTunes
iPhoto, "ok, looks useless to me"
here comes the iCamera, perfect match to iPhoto
iHope you do it apple
iWill by one
lewdvig
macrumors 65816
Hey Timothy
Both your cameras suck.
G1 = old.
G1 + 340microdrive = more than the price of the 5gb Apple camera if you believe the source.
Taking TIFF shots without Firewire takes more patience than I have.
Elura sucks in low light. A bit more than 50% of the day. Duct tape and a flashlight!
I can say this because I have the same taste in hardware.
They may be best of breed, but there is lotsa room for improvement.
If you double the price and take the Foveon and iPhoto Pro BS out, we may be close to the truth here. Maybe add another $400 just to be safe.
There is lots of room in the digicam market right now. A camera that could take 4mp images and record high def MPG-2 onto a 10gb hard drive (2-hours of DVD quality video). All integrated through iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD...
we have a genre/category buster here folks for a reasonable $1400 SRP.
Both your cameras suck.
G1 = old.
G1 + 340microdrive = more than the price of the 5gb Apple camera if you believe the source.
Taking TIFF shots without Firewire takes more patience than I have.
Elura sucks in low light. A bit more than 50% of the day. Duct tape and a flashlight!
I can say this because I have the same taste in hardware.
They may be best of breed, but there is lotsa room for improvement.
If you double the price and take the Foveon and iPhoto Pro BS out, we may be close to the truth here. Maybe add another $400 just to be safe.
There is lots of room in the digicam market right now. A camera that could take 4mp images and record high def MPG-2 onto a 10gb hard drive (2-hours of DVD quality video). All integrated through iPhoto, iMovie, and iDVD...
we have a genre/category buster here folks for a reasonable $1400 SRP.
Wow...the things you learn!
Thanks for the info...and here I had been using these cameras for more than two years and didn't even realize they "suck." 🙄
Thanks for the info...and here I had been using these cameras for more than two years and didn't even realize they "suck." 🙄
maybe...?
I think Apple could put out a digital video/photo cam. It would have to be hard drive based along the lines of iPod. It would make things easier since you wouldn't have to go to a store when you don't have any more DV tapes.
I'm not saying pro level camera here....maybe mid-level very consumer friendly.
Just thinking outloud...
I think Apple could put out a digital video/photo cam. It would have to be hard drive based along the lines of iPod. It would make things easier since you wouldn't have to go to a store when you don't have any more DV tapes.
I'm not saying pro level camera here....maybe mid-level very consumer friendly.
Just thinking outloud...
lewdvig
macrumors 65816
Hey Timothy!
Just kidding.
Like I said, I made the exact same selections.
Don't tell me you wouldn't mind upgrading that G1 though. You can still get alot for it used.
I'll sell mine if something as cool as these rumours come out. Don't be surprised if it uses Canon optics and CCD or CMOS. Canon supplies many of its competitors (just like Sony does) with parts for their cameras.
It will have to be both different and a step up.
Just kidding.
Like I said, I made the exact same selections.
Don't tell me you wouldn't mind upgrading that G1 though. You can still get alot for it used.
I'll sell mine if something as cool as these rumours come out. Don't be surprised if it uses Canon optics and CCD or CMOS. Canon supplies many of its competitors (just like Sony does) with parts for their cameras.
It will have to be both different and a step up.
jefhatfield
Retired
the ipod sold when people thought there was not any need for a product like that
i am sure an apple digital camera would sell, and if it is reasonable and not as premium as the ipod, i would buy one...but i would not spend 400 dollars
for 400 dollars, i would get the canon digital elph, perhaps the top selling medium/high end digital camera of all time!
i am sure an apple digital camera would sell, and if it is reasonable and not as premium as the ipod, i would buy one...but i would not spend 400 dollars
for 400 dollars, i would get the canon digital elph, perhaps the top selling medium/high end digital camera of all time!